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24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM
You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 29, 2006 4:28 pm) But that would be true about the S, 7, A8, etc., relative to their lineups. So what is the point? Did anyone here ever say that the median LS buyer is 49? I actually had been only skimming the thread of late, noted Tagman's request for the table, and found it for him. Didn't make any claim that it represented the LS specifically. I have no problem with a viewpoint that the average LS buyer is older than the average Lexus buyer. But if you are trying to criticize the LS or its buyers by saying they are "old", I would respond that imho they are no older than S buyers. |
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 29, 2006 4:28 pm) We need to be talking about the CARS. You like or don't like the car for what the car is - you don't like or dislike the car because of real or perceived demographical data ... do you??  I sure hope not.
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 29, 2006 4:28 pm) BTW, season finale of "Rescue Me" airs tonight. TagMan
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Replying to: tagman (Aug 29, 2006 4:58 pm) Great segue into the "Rescue Me" by the way! 
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Mercedes has always let it be known that the Bluetec would initially not be able to be sold to all 50 states off the bat. The engine is low-sulfur ready and Tier 2 emissions capable. BUT: The bluetec isn't done. MB will fit the water-vapor canister to the entire system to work in concert with the 4 catalytic converters that will last 1M miles for the '08 m/y. The Germans will have the cleanest diesels on the face of the planet, even outperforming some of those supposed super clean gas motors. Audi's TDI has a similar system on their cars that will be for sale here in '08. And BMW with the diesel-electric powerplant that it is in cahoots with GM on? This is going to be a very interesting upcoming year. High Maintenance? Nowhere close. If MB does anything right, it's diesel engines.
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We're here to talk about cars. Not other members of the Forums who like or don't like any given vehicle and not any demographics, anecdotal or staticized (is that a word? It should be!!) about the drivers/owners of said cars. Let's please keep our comments confined to how we feel about the cars themselves from here on out. There's plenty to debate right there. |
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Just went over to Autospies and saw the first TV ad in the new campaign for the 2007 Lexus LS460. The first comment by somebody who viewed the ad was in essence that the new LS looks too much like a "5-er." I cleaned his comment up a bit. A little from the back, perhaps. Otherwise, I surely don't see it. |
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Replying to: blkhemi (Aug 29, 2006 5:39 pm) Man, I'm with you on this. As Dewey pointed out, this is the engine I'm waiting for. It will be worth the wait, I have little doubt. The question is, which models will get it? I'm under the impression that we'll find the BlueTec in the E-Class and also in the new GL, but I just have to believe that it will work it's way into the S-Class sooner or later . . . it just plain makes so much sense to me to offer an S-Class diesel. TagMan
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Here's an interesting article about the current sales condition for Lexus in its very own backyard. Seems odd, but it is nonetheless true. More interesting is to note the sales data for BMW in Japan. link title TagMan |
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Replying to: tagman (Aug 29, 2006 6:24 pm) For sure, this will be the engine they'll put in the S and GL, as well as the ML-Class. The '08 C-Class is due to be the first diesel passenger car to be 50 state certified early next year, just a couple of months ahead of the new A4/A6 TDI's and the 330d that BMW claim they won't send yet the car has been given the green light in the crash standards and EPA certifications earlier this month. Why go through this much trouble to certify a car that you don't plan on selling here? The 530d is scheduled to come also. There is no question that MB will get 50-state compliance out of the Bluetec as it is that good. The JGC CDI will the first domestic model to be able to be 50-state legal. The Jeep will feature the water-vapor canister that spits out only water from the exhaust pipe. DCX is on a major roll. |
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