High End Luxury Cars

24699 messages, Last post on Nov 30, 2009 at 6:41 PM

You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens

What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#18413 of 24699 Re: Lexus and Porsche are symbols of excellence, many own both [tagman] by pat HOST Aug 29, 2006 (2:28 pm)
Replying to: tagman (Aug 29, 2006 2:27 pm) Thank you, but what I said needs to be said. But thanks. Replies to this message: tagman (Aug 29, 2006 2:43 pm) pat (Aug 29, 2006 2:54 pm)
#18414 of 24699 Re: Lexus and Porsche are symbols of excellence, many own both [stevekilbur by stevekilburn Aug 29, 2006 (2:33 pm)
Replying to: hpowders (Aug 29, 2006 2:18 pm) It has also been my observation that more senior citizens drive S-class and A8 slowly than LS owners. Also, you dont have to search back your post since the link to your post from which I quoted was in my post itself so its a useless argument, nor was my reply out of context. The fact is, your assertions on LS are just plain wrong and you are projecting your frustrations on me and accusing me in turn of being frustrated. Its pitiful but true. Replies to this message: hpowders (Aug 29, 2006 2:46 pm)
#18415 of 24699 Re: Lexus and Porsche are symbols of excellence, many own both [stevekilburn] by warthog Aug 29, 2006 (2:36 pm)
Replying to: stevekilburn (Aug 29, 2006 2:11 pm) Agree that categorizing owners by the their cars is not completely reliable. As you say, the same guy might drive a LS430 to the office and go blasting around in a 911 on the weekends. (But not too many of them, I suspect.) Nonetheless, anyone but a true believer knows that the 430 is a vanilla, uninvolving car compared to an Audi or a BMW. Who cares? We all pick and choose what we like. But why pretend that a Lexus is other than what it is? Replies to this message: stevekilburn (Aug 29, 2006 2:42 pm)
#18416 of 24699 Re: ultimate HELM [pat] by stevekilburn Aug 29, 2006 (2:38 pm)
Replying to: pat (Aug 29, 2006 2:26 pm) Well, you certainly can discuss. After all you are the boss here!
#18417 of 24699 Re: Lexus and Porsche are symbols of excellence, many own both [warthog] by stevekilburn Aug 29, 2006 (2:42 pm)
Replying to: warthog (Aug 29, 2006 2:36 pm) I have driven all four. A8, 7, LS and S and quite frankly I dont see much difference in terms of agility. quattroporte is very different. You can instantly sense it. But the german trio and LS are too close. On a scale of 0-100 I would rate 70 Quattroporte 60 S-class 60 7 58 A8 57 LS 430
#18418 of 24699 Re: Lexus and Porsche are symbols of excellence, many own both [pat] by tagman Aug 29, 2006 (2:43 pm)
Replying to: pat (Aug 29, 2006 2:28 pm) I do agree. I have historically been careful to not claim to be a member of a "camp", but I do think my views themselves indicate my preference for European vehicles, and that alone seems to get me placed in a "category" or on a "side" . . . but I am typically known to be moderate and fair and balanced, with maybe an occassional jest, regarding the Lexus vehicles and those that prefer them. The main thing, Pat, IMO, is to be more respectful of all of our differences. You've got my support and I hope that any others that read this realize that I stand for tolerance and appreciation and respect of those that have different views. I would love to see this HELM forum as one that is not only about some of the best cars in the world, but contains posts made by some of the classiest people in the world as well. TagMan Replies to this message: pat (Aug 29, 2006 2:54 pm)
#18419 of 24699 Re: Lexus and Porsche are symbols of excellence, many own both [stevekilbur by hpowders Aug 29, 2006 (2:46 pm)
Replying to: stevekilburn (Aug 29, 2006 2:33 pm) Okay Steve. Let's just agree to disagree. Anyhow, I am glad you found your way back to this board and even if we sometimes disagree, I will look forward to reading your future posts and having more spirited debates with you.
#18420 of 24699 Re: ultimate HELM [pat] by hpowders Aug 29, 2006 (2:49 pm)
Replying to: pat (Aug 29, 2006 2:11 pm) Sure!
#18421 of 24699 Re: Lexus and Porsche are symbols of excellence, many own both [pat] by hpowders Aug 29, 2006 (2:53 pm)
Replying to: pat (Aug 29, 2006 2:23 pm) You are correct. I sometimes catch myself doing just that. While the views I represent are my own, I am occasionally guilty of a "some of us" or a "we." I will attempt to edit myself more carefully in the future. Replies to this message: pat (Aug 29, 2006 2:55 pm) hpowders (Aug 29, 2006 3:08 pm)
#18422 of 24699 Re: Lexus and Porsche are symbols of excellence, many own both [tagman] by pat HOST Aug 29, 2006 (2:54 pm)
Replying to: tagman (Aug 29, 2006 2:43 pm) I would love to see this HELM forum as one that is not only about some of the best cars in the world, but contains posts made by some of the classiest people in the world as well. We've been there before and there's no reason we can't get back there.