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You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens

What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Lexus and Porsche are symbols of excellence, many own both by stevekilburn
Aug 29, 2006 (2:11 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 29, 2006 6:32 am)

Toyota/Lexus is successful because... basic, boring transportation. They drive to the supermarket and drive home. They don't subscribe to automags. They use CR as their benchmark for what a good car is supposed to be..."
 
Have you done a survey to make that statement? Or have you entered everybody's house to check what magazines they read? This is probably the most bigoted post I have read in last 3-4 days.
 
I have seen dozens of Lexus owners who also own a porsche and vice-versa. Almost every person in their right mind would know that porsche enthusiasts along with ferrari owners are the most diehard racers.
 
So this assertion that lexus is boring and its owners are boring is so wild and so out of touch with reality that its mind boggling.
 
Rather than spending countless hours on these forums one should venture outside once in a while to observe the universe.
 
Many owners own porsche alongside Lexus because they are symbols of excellence. Benz is the past, bmw pretends but isn't. Audi is wannabe and trying. Truth is very bitter sometimes, but its the truth nonetheless.
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Re: ultimate HELM [hpowders] by pat HOST
Aug 29, 2006 (2:11 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 29, 2006 2:09 pm)

Well we may not be able to add categories for all the possibile "ultimate" high end sedans, but we can - and I believe should - discuss them. The Arnage, Phantom and Maybach 57/62 have been mentioned. Thoughts? Additions?
 
I can add all of those four (57/62 are separate)if we drop two of the ones listed. IOW, we have a 9 category limit, but that does not have to equate to a 9 vehicle limit, especially not in a discussion such as this one.
 
Anyway, let's see what folks might like to discuss and go from there.
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Re: ultimate HELM [pat] by stevekilburn
Aug 29, 2006 (2:16 pm)
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Replying to: pat (Aug 29, 2006 2:11 pm)

How many people have the means to own them. Those who have, do not waste time in these forums.
 
Why discuss if you cannot own them.
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Re: ultimate HELM [stevekilburn] by pat HOST
Aug 29, 2006 (2:17 pm)
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Replying to: stevekilburn (Aug 29, 2006 2:16 pm)

Why not? You don't find them interesting? Of course if you don't want to talk about them, you certainly don't have to!
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Re: Lexus and Porsche are symbols of excellence, many own both [stevekilburn] by tagman
Aug 29, 2006 (2:17 pm)
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Replying to: stevekilburn (Aug 29, 2006 2:11 pm)

steve - the part of your post that indicates that Lexus owners might own or be interested in more exciting cars makes good sense to me.
 
But, the way you characterize the Benz and the BMW and the Audi doesn't do you any good, because it represents you very poorly.
 
TagMan
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Re: Lexus and Porsche are symbols of excellence, many own both [stevekilbur by hpowders
Aug 29, 2006 (2:18 pm)
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Replying to: stevekilburn (Aug 29, 2006 2:11 pm)

If you are going to quote from one of my posts, would you kindly press the "reply," so I can read the entire post you are taking this quote out of context, instead of having to search back to find it.
It's called "common courtesy."
 
When the warden allows me to "venture out" as you call it, I will repeat what I already posted:
 
It has been my observation that approximately 70% of LS drivers are senior citizens. On the highway I have seen many of them driving too slowly even though they have this big powerful V-8 at their disposal.
 
It's what I have found. Sorry if it frustrates you.
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Re: ultimate HELM [pat] by stevekilburn
Aug 29, 2006 (2:22 pm)
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Replying to: pat (Aug 29, 2006 2:17 pm)

No I don't and by the way look at it yourself. How many posts have been posted under maserati, aston martin, rr, mm, bentley, ferrari in the past.
 
Very very few. Infact some of them dont even have a thread yet. They are not relevant to any online forum.
 
Porsche, Lexus, bmw, benz, thats another matter. They are mainstream and many forum users can afford them.
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Re: Lexus and Porsche are symbols of excellence, many own both [tagman] by pat HOST
Aug 29, 2006 (2:23 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Aug 29, 2006 2:17 pm)

Let me just note that one poster represents only one poster and ascribing the views expressed in any one post to a group of people is unrealistic and unfair.
 
We really, really need to get away from the "us vs. them" attitudes in here. Those attitudes have been the direct cause of the difficulties we've over the last month or two.
 
Tagman, although I am replying to you and want you to hear me, I'm also speaking to everyone else here, anyone who identifies himself as a member of one camp or the other.
 
Let's let it go. This is not a war. It's (supposed to be) a conversation about the cars that we all admire - in varying degrees and of course we don't have to admire all of them - instead of a "mine is bigger, um, better than yours" brawl.
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Re: ultimate HELM [stevekilburn] by pat HOST
Aug 29, 2006 (2:26 pm)
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Replying to: stevekilburn (Aug 29, 2006 2:22 pm)

Talk about whatever upper end vehicle you find of interest - or don't - your call.
 
Numbers of posts in any given discussion don't tell you whether you admire a car, do they?? Those numbers certainly do not mean no one can discuss them here.
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Re: Lexus and Porsche are symbols of excellence, many own both [pat] by tagman
Aug 29, 2006 (2:27 pm)
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Replying to: pat (Aug 29, 2006 2:23 pm)

note the edit

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