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24700 messages,  Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens

What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Re: What counts most [tagman] by dewey
Aug 29, 2006 (1:52 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Aug 29, 2006 7:15 am)

that it is a rolling tomb with 19 speakers and that it parks itself is . . . well . . . NOT the primary focus, IMO.
 
I believe the MB CL will be the quietest car in the world even quieter than the new Lexus LS(I dont know about the hybrid LS).
 
In addition electronic parking assistance will be a a MB CL feature.
 
In otherwords Lexus is not going to monopolize the self parking tomb segment of the auto industry.
 
SOURCE: GERMAN CAR FANS
 
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Re: ultimate HELM [ctsang] by hpowders
Aug 29, 2006 (1:54 pm)
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Replying to: ctsang (Aug 29, 2006 12:55 pm)

"Do you know what an Ultimate HELM is?"
 
If you are going to refer to words I used in a previous post,It would be nice if you could press "reply."
That's what the "reply" thing is there for.
 
Do you know what DECORUM is??
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Re: ultimate HELM [ctsang] by dewey
Aug 29, 2006 (1:56 pm)
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Replying to: ctsang (Aug 29, 2006 12:55 pm)

Do you know what an ultimate HELM is?
 
No! But I do know what an Ultimate Driving Machine is.
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Re: What counts most [dewey] by tagman
Aug 29, 2006 (1:59 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Aug 29, 2006 1:52 pm)

I believe the MB CL will be the quietest car in the world even quieter than the new Lexus LS.
  
In addition electronic parking assistance will be a a MB CL feature.
  
In otherwords Lexus is not going to monopolize the self parking tomb segment of the auto industry.

 
But, only one of those tombs might actually be suitable for a dead driver! lol.
 
Couldn't resist, and I'm gonna catch heck for it.
 
TagMan
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Re: What counts most [tagman] by dewey
Aug 29, 2006 (2:00 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Aug 29, 2006 1:59 pm)

But, only one of those tombs might actually be suitable for a dead driver! lol.
 
King Tut would definitely choose the Lexus
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Re: ultimate HELM [dewey] by hpowders
Aug 29, 2006 (2:01 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Aug 29, 2006 1:56 pm)

The ultimate HELM is the Mercedes Benz S-Class!
 
There is no more Ultimate Driving Machine, Dewey.
 
With the advent of iDrive and adaptive steering, BMW can now proudly call itself the "Company of Ideas." They never said the ideas had to be good ones. Very smart of them!
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Re: ultimate HELM [hpowders] by pat HOST
Aug 29, 2006 (2:03 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 29, 2006 2:01 pm)

Declaring the S-Class the ceiling for this discussion makes no sense to me.
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LS review from Ireland by syswei
Aug 29, 2006 (2:03 pm)
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Human touch puts Lexus ahead
 
....a level of build quality that would do Rolls Royce proud.
 
....the LS manages to be remarkably stable when cornering. On tight and twisting Austrian mountain roads, the car tucked in nicely into the turns. It's never going to have sports car handling but for its size it kept a very impressive line and even on the tightest bends it never felt unwieldy.
 
On faster motorway runs the ride quality throughout our two-day test drive was sublime.
 
....the LS has previously failed to sparkle in terms of driver interaction and enjoyment. The new LS goes some way to rectify that, though it's still very much designed to waft the occupants to their desired destination. Even after two relatively long journeys behind the wheel of the new LS we never got out feeling tired or jaded. That's perhaps the greatest compliment that can be paid to a luxury saloon.
 
If there is any criticism of ride and handling, it's that at higher speeds the handling seemed too neutral for our taste, lacking the feedback you get from some competitors. That's a feature common with cars designed for the US market and given that it's the biggest sales arena for the LS, it's hardly surprising the development was honed to meet US tastes as much as European ones.
 
....All this add up to the greatest threat yet to the German dominance of the luxury car market. Where once we regarded Lexus as an also-ran, the new LS signals a serious effort to turn it into one of the leader's in this class.
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Re: MB diesel [merc1] by greasykid1
Aug 29, 2006 (2:07 pm)
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Replying to: merc1 (Aug 27, 2006 1:10 pm)

I'm sure that you are correct about Bluetech;however it will have a more complicated emmissions system that will incease the cost of the car and be more expensive to maintain. Practically the same performance and milage as the current CDI.
 
Besides all this my wife says I can't buy any more cars. This is #19 Mercedes.
 
See all these problems with MB posted. Bought my first MB in 1971.....a 280SL. Have had several of most models..SL,S,C,E,SLK,6 diesels. Guess I am just lucky as I have never had a bad one.
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Re: ultimate HELM [pat] by hpowders
Aug 29, 2006 (2:09 pm)
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Replying to: pat (Aug 29, 2006 2:03 pm)

I have no objection to adding more vehicles here.
My comments are confined to the vehicles discussed here.
Of course there are some HELM that are, well, "more ultimate."
 
Sure! Expand the list!

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