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24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM
You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: merc1 (Aug 25, 2006 3:21 pm) I hope they test it with the new sportier suspension because we can safely predict what they will say if they test the basic LS 460 (which would be a shame).
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 25, 2006 4:17 pm)
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Hp and Merc1, Well, well isn't this a great surprise? The LS460 is a bargain but also an incredibly bland car for an enthusiast.What else is new? After reading some prior posts here I thought this car was going to be the New Jerusalem of the auto industry. Anyone waiting for an LS that can compete with the Germans will end up sharing the same fate as the two gentlemen in "Waiting for Godot". Eternity is a very long time!
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Replying to: anthonyp (Aug 25, 2006 5:07 pm) The LS is a HELM with an emphasis on luxury. The 550 is an LPS with the emphasis on performance. They can overlap in price, however, since a well-equipped 550 can approach $75k. I'm glad you found the 550 "striking" Tony! As far as the rear goes, the spy photos of the next 5 Series show a distinct toning down of the Bangle tail lights-a little more "conservative" look. |
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Replying to: dewey (Aug 25, 2006 5:52 pm) The general consensus of reviews loves the luxurious appointments of the LS 460, but gives it a big yawn for driveability. Exactly what they wrote when reviewing the LS 430.
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 25, 2006 5:58 pm) I've got a lot of heavy duty reading to do tonight. 
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 25, 2006 4:17 pm) I don't think the S550 really leans toward performance that much more per say, it just manages to offer that smooth ride with a greater sense of the road than the LS does. That has always been the key for the S-Class. M |
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All this interest in the LS from the Europhiles. Seems to be the favorite topic of discussion (rightfully so) here on the European helm board. It is still surprising to see how many draw conclusions from mags before they actually drive the car or even see one in person. When you consider the fact that the LS is currently the most successful car in the world, I can only hope that Lexus has not changed this winning combination too much. Why in the world would the LS need or want to compete with the Germans when the LS is already so far ahead of them? With their comparitively small sales, the Europeans have been relegated to the "botique Class". I do not like the self parking feature and hope that they rethink this and eliminate the thing. It is totally over the top and unnecessary. I also think that the trouble Audi had a few years ago with the phantom unintended acceleration will pale into insignificance when the lawsuits start to hit involving this self parking gizmo. What were they thinking? |
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Replying to: houdini1 (Aug 26, 2006 5:01 am)
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Reading your 2nd paragraph, you mentioned that the LS was the most successful car in the world. You go on to say that the Europeans with their relatively "small sales"/ If I'm not mistaken, isn't it the Europeans that outsell the LS 14-1 in it's mainland Asia? Or the fact the LS isn't a blip on the European radar sreen, the home of the all out luxury car segment? Yes the car is hugely successful here in the US, the biggest car market(for now until 2012 when China says it'll take that spot) where it counts, but the whole world? Not even close. There are some parts of the world who have not even heard of the LS, or even Lexus in general. Yes there is a lot of talk going on here for the LS, but this was the same thing when the S550 bowed out. So I don't see any difference. That being said, I agree with you on the self-park feature. Sure it's nice to have even more gadgets to justify the worth of a car. But to take away the drivers ability to park the car is something that should've been left at the idea table. BTW: When the 7-Series debuted for the '02 model year, the car got completely slammed for having a knob to control virtually everything in the car and for having a stubby joystick as the means of putting the car in gear and the styling, well. Well a few short years later, EVERY luxury carmaker is following suit, including the no-nonsense maker Lexus. Do you find this the least bit strange that the car everyone loves to hate is now a trendsetter across the board? Even the Bangle styling can be seen in a few cars nowadays. Whatsupwitdat????
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