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24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM
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Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: blkhemi (Aug 22, 2006 1:24 pm) Good question. The line about a V8 "killing the car's handling" doesn't seem to make a lot of sense considering the M3 and RS4 obviously don't have any such problems. Nor does using hybrid power. Unless they come up with vastly more powerful electric motors, an IS450h would only be good for 340hp or so, which would barely be enough to offset the extra weight from the batteries. Additional problems come from the fact that hybrid power eventually runs out, and no hybrid thus far has what would be considered "high performance" brakes. If they are worried about the 5.0L V8 being too heavy, it would make much more sense to use turbocharging rather than hybrid power. The RX is due for remake in only 4 years? Very much out of the Lexus norm. This RX will have a five year run just like the last one, '04-'08. As for the SC, I hope they mean that they are just using the basic proportions of the 6 series and will make the next SC lower and longer, and not copying actual details such as the "catfish" face and "trunk from another car" rear. Looks wise, the 650 is I think the worst of them all.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 22, 2006 8:41 pm) M |
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Replying to: blkhemi (Aug 22, 2006 1:33 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Aug 23, 2006 6:45 am) To soothe out my pain, she bought me some Ben & Jerry's. I have a smiley face now..... |
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"New Car Test Drive" gave the new LS a good write-up. A fine place to look for one. I don't believe I have ever read a negative review there for any vehicle. That is why I recommended people looking for a "feel-good" review of this vehicle to turn to them when the review is published. A more well-rounded review is found in the "Times Online." They give the car 4 out of 5 stars which is very good. However they qualify that with "Technically an Audi A8 is a less accomplished car than this-it lets you feel the bumps in the tarmac and is less able to block out noise from the engine, road and wind-yet it feels more luxurious." and "The LS 460 may well be the most technologically accomplished saloon ever created. Call me picky, but these days I'm not sure that's enough."
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 24, 2006 5:31 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 24, 2006 8:35 am) The first drive they ran last week didn't say much. Nor did they say when to expect a comprehensive test drive. Logic tells me since they already did the first drive, the road test will have to follow. Should be sometime in October. From the first drive, it is obvious that the LS 460 is a huge improvement in the looks dept. over the current version. Lexus did a nice job on this vehicle's appearance. To my eyes, the LS 460L is not nearly the looker the LS 460 is. |
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The LS 460's appearance has done a complete 180. The car no longer appears as if it were a body-on-frame design, and it does have an elegant pose to it. And the rags are right, the car will be the most technology-packed car in the class, even more so than the Microsoft-cerified 7-Series. But will it be enough to be taken seriously by the Europeans? On paper, they have all of the boxes checked. But as the '01 proved, they still had some work to do when it debuted. The '04 refresh corrected some, but much was still wanted. I hear that Lexus is getting serious about the supposed LS460 "Sport". They have approached Delphi, the bankrupt but functional GM sub, about fitting the car with the electromagnetic shocks that make the Vette, XLR, and new Ferrari's corner like they are on rails yet retain a ride so supple that you soon forget you're driving a car that is so capable. The '07 appears to be better apportioned. The styling is primo, not annonymous like the current. I personally like the styling, but a test drive will definetely have to make me a believer, if not a total Lexus convert.
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