High End Luxury Cars

24699 messages, Last post on Nov 30, 2009 at 6:41 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#18250 of 24699 Re: Lexus future plans\models [blkhemi] by lexusguy Aug 22, 2006 (8:41 pm)
Replying to: blkhemi (Aug 22, 2006 1:24 pm) I do wonder tho. Why is Lexus holding out on the supposed IS500? The car has been seen numerous times going around the N'Ring in Germany, in both coupe and sedan form. With Audi, BMW, MB, and Caddy offering V8 power, no doubt Lexus wants to be the first Japanese maker to follow suit. Good question. The line about a V8 "killing the car's handling" doesn't seem to make a lot of sense considering the M3 and RS4 obviously don't have any such problems. Nor does using hybrid power. Unless they come up with vastly more powerful electric motors, an IS450h would only be good for 340hp or so, which would barely be enough to offset the extra weight from the batteries. Additional problems come from the fact that hybrid power eventually runs out, and no hybrid thus far has what would be considered "high performance" brakes. If they are worried about the 5.0L V8 being too heavy, it would make much more sense to use turbocharging rather than hybrid power. The RX is due for remake in only 4 years? Very much out of the Lexus norm. This RX will have a five year run just like the last one, '04-'08. As for the SC, I hope they mean that they are just using the basic proportions of the 6 series and will make the next SC lower and longer, and not copying actual details such as the "catfish" face and "trunk from another car" rear. Looks wise, the 650 is I think the worst of them all. Replies to this message: merc1 (Aug 22, 2006 8:44 pm)
#18251 of 24699 Re: Lexus future plans\models [lexusguy] by merc1 Aug 22, 2006 (8:44 pm)
Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 22, 2006 8:41 pm) I don't think Lexus is holding out with the IS500, they just don't want to let anyone know anything to early. They're testing something under the hood of that IS test mule so we'll find out sooner or later. I suspect they'll go with a 400hp version of the 5.0L V8 in the LS600hL. That would bring the IS500 within spitting distance of the RS6, next M3 and C63. M
#18252 of 24699 vehicles, please by kirstie_h HOST Aug 23, 2006 (6:35 am)
Let's take care to focus on vehicles rather than on the credibility of other members. Personally-directed comments are subject to liberal application of "Post-B-Gone™" Thanks!
#18253 of 24699 Re: WHOA??? [blkhemi] by houdini1 Aug 23, 2006 (6:45 am)
Replying to: blkhemi (Aug 22, 2006 1:33 pm) Congratulations, that is a wonderful automobile. When do you expect delivery? I am looking forward to a comprehensive review. Replies to this message: blkhemi (Aug 23, 2006 1:46 pm)
#18254 of 24699 Re: WHOA??? [houdini1] by blkhemi Aug 23, 2006 (1:46 pm)
Replying to: houdini1 (Aug 23, 2006 6:45 am) Both the S8 and S600 will be here in October. I'm eagerly anticipating the arrival of both, considering the fact that I don't have a HELM to call my own anymore since I transferred the title and state registration of the W12 to my daughter today. To soothe out my pain, she bought me some Ben & Jerry's. I have a smiley face now.....
#18255 of 24699 LS 460 Reviews by hpowders Aug 24, 2006 (5:31 am)
"New Car Test Drive" gave the new LS a good write-up. A fine place to look for one. I don't believe I have ever read a negative review there for any vehicle. That is why I recommended people looking for a "feel-good" review of this vehicle to turn to them when the review is published. A more well-rounded review is found in the "Times Online." They give the car 4 out of 5 stars which is very good. However they qualify that with "Technically an Audi A8 is a less accomplished car than this-it lets you feel the bumps in the tarmac and is less able to block out noise from the engine, road and wind-yet it feels more luxurious." and "The LS 460 may well be the most technologically accomplished saloon ever created. Call me picky, but these days I'm not sure that's enough." Replies to this message: lexusguy (Aug 24, 2006 8:35 am) hpowders (Aug 24, 2006 8:49 am)
#18256 of 24699 Re: LS 460 Reviews [hpowders] by lexusguy Aug 24, 2006 (8:35 am)
Replying to: hpowders (Aug 24, 2006 5:31 am) New car test drive is a great source for model year update info because they re-"test" cars generally every year. Beyond the first few paragraphs though, their reviews are pretty useless. Motorweek is more critical. Replies to this message: hpowders (Aug 24, 2006 8:49 am)
#18257 of 24699 Re: LS 460 Reviews [lexusguy] by hpowders Aug 24, 2006 (8:49 am)
Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 24, 2006 8:35 am) I scanned MotorWeek's program schedule and unfortunately, there is no test drive scheduled for the LS 460 through September 29th's segment. The first drive they ran last week didn't say much. Nor did they say when to expect a comprehensive test drive. Logic tells me since they already did the first drive, the road test will have to follow. Should be sometime in October. From the first drive, it is obvious that the LS 460 is a huge improvement in the looks dept. over the current version. Lexus did a nice job on this vehicle's appearance. To my eyes, the LS 460L is not nearly the looker the LS 460 is.