High End Luxury Cars

24696 messages, Last post on Nov 28, 2009 at 10:43 AM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#18241 of 24696 Re: WHOA??? [brightness04] by blkhemi Aug 22, 2006 (1:11 pm)
Replying to: brightness04 (Aug 21, 2006 7:15 pm) Lexus doesn't have the gall to price the base LS460 over 60k with a '06 LS430 starting at only $56k. This is just business sense. About the self-park system, if you read correctly, I did say "Lexus" says the system operates this way. Nice joke about the S, altho the S550 is still the only one to fully brake without the dtivers intervention. If the LS' approach systems are fogged or rained on, it doesn't work.
#18242 of 24696 Re: WHOA??? [brightness04] by blkhemi Aug 22, 2006 (1:16 pm)
Replying to: brightness04 (Aug 21, 2006 7:21 pm) There have been several complaints about drivers not being able to hear emergency vehicles in the LS. Funny thing is, in one of the LS430's earlier commercials, the guy speaks on how you can COMPLETELY block out the outside environment. Not a coincedence they removed the ad?
#18244 of 24696 Re: Lexus future plans\models [lexusguy] by blkhemi Aug 22, 2006 (1:24 pm)
Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 21, 2006 4:13 pm) LG, a great compiled list you have for Lexus. I do wonder tho. Why is Lexus holding out on the supposed IS500? The car has been seen numerous times going around the N'Ring in Germany, in both coupe and sedan form. With Audi, BMW, MB, and Caddy offering V8 power, no doubt Lexus wants to be the first Japanese maker to follow suit. The RX is due for remake in only 4 years? Very much out of the Lexus norm. But hey, things do change, except that by the time the LX570 rolls around, the LX470 will be 14 years old since the SUV has been on sale in Japan and the Far East since '97. BTW: Since you're closer to Lexus than I am, please tell them, for all intents and purposes, please do not go from bad to worst in regard to the SC. The bulby body of the current to the frown of the 6-Series-like model will for sure keep things confusing for the once elegant car. The love I have for the 6-Series is akin to the love you have for a sweet ugly girl: The best is on the inside. Replies to this message: lexusguy (Aug 22, 2006 8:41 pm) merc1 (Aug 22, 2006 8:44 pm)
#18245 of 24696 Re: WHOA??? [merc1] by blkhemi Aug 22, 2006 (1:33 pm)
Replying to: merc1 (Aug 22, 2006 12:52 am) The S600 so impressed me with the 2nd drive that the S65 seemed unnecessary. Don't get me wrong. The S65 is the best thing with 4-doors to get to 60 in 4 secs. flat. But the utter opulance the S600 exhibits makes it the best thing for the money. And I get 20 MPG on the highway, with all of the MB stuff standard. The only option was the moonstone metallic paint w/ anti scratch/chip. And for the heck of it, I ordered a set of 20" AMG wheels with Michelin run-flats. Total cost: $146k, including freight and MB worry-free 120k mile Extended Protection from head to toe. To hear the the thunder from a German V12 without the need to ever have to worry about something breaking: Priceless. Let the fun began. Replies to this message: brightness04 (Aug 22, 2006 4:50 pm) houdini1 (Aug 23, 2006 6:45 am) blkhemi (Aug 23, 2006 1:46 pm)
#18247 of 24696 Re: WHOA??? [blkhemi] by brightness04 Aug 22, 2006 (4:50 pm)
Replying to: blkhemi (Aug 22, 2006 1:33 pm) I always thought the primary cost if a car breaks down, for someone making enough to afford a car over $100k, is the value of time, not repair cost per se. Anyway, that's the reason why I stayed away from VW's and Hyundai's when they were offering 100k miles warranties.
#18250 of 24696 Re: Lexus future plans\models [blkhemi] by lexusguy Aug 22, 2006 (8:41 pm)
Replying to: blkhemi (Aug 22, 2006 1:24 pm) I do wonder tho. Why is Lexus holding out on the supposed IS500? The car has been seen numerous times going around the N'Ring in Germany, in both coupe and sedan form. With Audi, BMW, MB, and Caddy offering V8 power, no doubt Lexus wants to be the first Japanese maker to follow suit. Good question. The line about a V8 "killing the car's handling" doesn't seem to make a lot of sense considering the M3 and RS4 obviously don't have any such problems. Nor does using hybrid power. Unless they come up with vastly more powerful electric motors, an IS450h would only be good for 340hp or so, which would barely be enough to offset the extra weight from the batteries. Additional problems come from the fact that hybrid power eventually runs out, and no hybrid thus far has what would be considered "high performance" brakes. If they are worried about the 5.0L V8 being too heavy, it would make much more sense to use turbocharging rather than hybrid power. The RX is due for remake in only 4 years? Very much out of the Lexus norm. This RX will have a five year run just like the last one, '04-'08. As for the SC, I hope they mean that they are just using the basic proportions of the 6 series and will make the next SC lower and longer, and not copying actual details such as the "catfish" face and "trunk from another car" rear. Looks wise, the 650 is I think the worst of them all. Replies to this message: merc1 (Aug 22, 2006 8:44 pm)