High End Luxury Cars

24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#18042 of 24700 Re: From a Lexus owner [grntd] by hpowders Aug 13, 2006 (10:45 am)
Replying to: grntd (Aug 13, 2006 9:20 am) Around 17 mpg average with the 4.4 X5. I get 21 mpg average with the 545. "Average" for me is about 70% highway, 30% city. I save around $500 a year in gas with the 545 over the X5. Money well spent for 3 meals at Ruth Chris Steakhouse served with my favorite vintage vino. Replies to this message: tagman (Aug 13, 2006 10:55 am) hpowders (Aug 13, 2006 11:05 am)
#18043 of 24700 Re: From a Lexus owner [hpowders] by tagman Aug 13, 2006 (10:55 am)
Replying to: hpowders (Aug 13, 2006 10:45 am) I save around $500 a year in gas with the 545 over the X5. You probably spill more than that at your business meetings. TagMan Replies to this message: hpowders (Aug 13, 2006 11:05 am)
#18044 of 24700 Re: From a Lexus owner [tagman] by hpowders Aug 13, 2006 (11:05 am)
Replying to: tagman (Aug 13, 2006 10:55 am) Ouch! Well, while I surely cannot debate your latest point, it was hard to pass up the opportunity to get a 4.4-liter, 325-hp, 32-valve, outstanding V-8 engine with 4 overhead camshafts that could deliver mpg in the 20's. An astonishing feat of engineering.
#18045 of 24700 Re: "Lexus winning..... [oac] by nvbanker Aug 13, 2006 (11:22 am)
Replying to: oac (Aug 09, 2006 11:46 am) "The SWB LS460 loaded is priced at $72K." YIKES!!! If it's not a blast to drive, an S-550 may indeed be in my future.....
#18046 of 24700 Re: L'Automobile Fra Diavolo [designman] by lexusguy Aug 13, 2006 (11:31 am)
Replying to: designman (Aug 13, 2006 10:36 am) Whenever anyone points to “driver’s” cars the handling aspect cannot, I repeat CANNOT be ignored or written off cavalierly. Superior handling is a quality of all sports cars and sports sedans, Italian or otherwise, as is engine performance. Anyone who does not recognize this is not a true sports=car or sport-sedan enthusiast. “Soul” cannot rest on the laurels of sound. Sport aspires to nobler characteristics. Sound is merely the sizzle in the steak. Sure, handling is a key aspect of any "driver's car". However, I think there's a difference between a driver's car and a car that has "soul". There are very few German cars that are not driver's cars. Germany is not the country you think of when you think "cars with soul", however. German cars are much more machine than animal.
#18047 of 24700 Re: Blkhemi [dhamilton] by blkhemi Aug 13, 2006 (11:40 am)
Replying to: dhamilton (Aug 13, 2006 9:31 am) I have tested the M5, and you're right, WHAT A BLAST!! Very few cars offer that type of driving with 4-doors, EXCEPT: Audi RS 6. But we'll save that for another discussion. But the M5 does offer the best performance on our shores currently(something the E63 is sure to try and break), and shockingly, it isn't that hard to drive, save for trying to squeeze the 500hp out of the V10. It shouldn't be that hard. I did not consider it because I'll need more room than what the M5 offers, altho the 5-Series is a relatively spacious car given what the tight exterior lines reveal. And the Continental GT, once again I need the space and the next 2-door I buy will be the Audi R10. Now the Continental Flying Spur. This car was high on my list, before I got serious about the S-Class. I was really all over it, until I actually saw one in person. Don't get me wrong, the exterior of the car is remarkably dashing and the interior is right there with the best. But the body is shaped odd to me. The high-roof/long-body, while a longtime Bentley styling cue, struck me as very odd in this age of swooping and dramatic body work, IMO. And this car is REALLY heavy, but it does have the superlative W12 to back it up. And to boot, the FS is roughly $40k more than the S600, BEFORE OPTIONS. And the S600 doesn't have any major options, except for those that are customer-related. Replies to this message: blckislandguy (Aug 13, 2006 5:48 pm)
#18048 of 24700 Re: May be getting closer [tagman] by blkhemi Aug 13, 2006 (11:43 am)
Replying to: tagman (Aug 13, 2006 8:52 am) ME, to drive a lowly Corvette and, of all things, a Jeep, around? How repulsive is that!!!
#18049 of 24700 LOL by dhamilton Aug 13, 2006 (12:43 pm)
Designman is right, and brings a true drivers perspective. A car must handle well, the sound is not all inclusive. That hits home with me as I am always the boy who wanted to race but settled for music lessons and basketball/ soccer for my athletic outlets. These cars represent the divided priorities in all of us, wanting to rip around the track but needing to have a back seat to haul diapers and formula home. Someday when my bank account allows [errr my wifes, MD.] I will be able to have a dedicated club day track car, as well as a competent daily driver. Until then, I live cerebrally through blkhemi and and the good Tagman with his recent Lotus purchase.
#18050 of 24700 Re: L'Automobile Fra Diavolo [designman] by tagman Aug 13, 2006 (1:30 pm)
Replying to: designman (Aug 13, 2006 10:36 am) delightful post. Gee, that's strange . . . Somehow I just feel like taking the family out to a nice Italian restaurant tonight. TagMan
#18051 of 24700 Re: Blkhemi [blkhemi] by blckislandguy Aug 13, 2006 (5:48 pm)
Replying to: blkhemi (Aug 13, 2006 11:40 am) At this level, I think it is all about psychic satisfaction. The Bentley I think will give you more of it and longer (at least a couple of years worth). This longer retention period might erase the initial price difference. Face it, a new S Class is now quite common in the Northeast. They've become almost steriotypical among certain tribes. My local junk yard owner (no joke!) even drives one. Not so with a Bentley FS.