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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Re: May be getting closer [hpowders] by blkhemi
Aug 13, 2006 (8:06 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 13, 2006 6:50 am)

The pictures for the interior of this car does not do it justice. And very rarely do I complement cars other than Audi's for outstanding interior craftsmanship, but this one definetely has it, particularly in the parchement hue, the interior of choice for me.
 
Yes the level of performance is not expected in this size of car, but is not quite as blistering as the S65, which may be a better thing when you factor in ride comfort.
 
Styling? While the wheel bulges did intitially did seem a bit over the top, but I have come to accept them as part of this beautiful machine. They're not as profound in person as the pictures would suggest. And the sleek design of the exterior of this car is a sort of evolution of the sleek but somewhat conservative styling of the W220, and this car, IMO, adds to the beautiful styling of that car, which was the trendsetter for that time.
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Re: May be getting closer [tagman] by blkhemi
Aug 13, 2006 (8:27 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Aug 13, 2006 7:21 am)

Waiting around for the S65 may be the only option now as I have to eliminate that doubt.
 
I know that the S600 is probably the best S-Class as it has everything standard and a honkin' V12 engine, but nothing in this category is as fast as the S65 AMG.
 
We'll just have to wait and see. Looks like I'll be driving the Vette Z06 around when dry, the JGC SRT-8 when wet/snowy until I make my decision.
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Re: May be getting closer [blkhemi] by hpowders
Aug 13, 2006 (8:42 am)
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Replying to: blkhemi (Aug 13, 2006 8:06 am)

Well if I'm going to come up with $130k, the interior had better knock my socks off!
 
What about the tail lights?
 
As Tagman suggests, waiting to compare both would probably be a good thing.
 
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Re: May be getting closer [blkhemi] by tagman
Aug 13, 2006 (8:52 am)
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Replying to: blkhemi (Aug 13, 2006 8:27 am)

Looks like I'll be driving the Vette Z06 around when dry, the JGC SRT-8 when wet/snowy until I make my decision.
 
Why is it I don't feel sorry for you?
 
BTW, I do think you are making the right decision to wait a little longer. It won't be long. Time flies when you're having fun . . . and with the cars you drive . . . fun will not be in short supply!
 
TagMan
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Re: From a Lexus owner [hpowders] by grntd
Aug 13, 2006 (9:20 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 12, 2006 11:57 am)

what was the mpg on the bimmer suv?
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Re: From a Lexus owner [grntd] by topspin628
Aug 13, 2006 (9:25 am)
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Replying to: grntd (Aug 13, 2006 9:20 am)

I'm guessing that the MPG on the X5 3.0 was around 17-18 combined. Around 20 on highway. This is just an estimate as I haven't checked it our recently.
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Blkhemi by dhamilton
Aug 13, 2006 (9:31 am)
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Boy are you in a pickle LOL. What about an M5? It may be to much of a compromise on the luxury side but boy what a blast. To bad the 4 door Aston, and porsches aren't out yet. Bentley continental GT?
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Box seats for Blkhemi by designman
Aug 13, 2006 (10:26 am)
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Something tells me Blkhemi won’t be making his decision based on what we say, kind of like manager Joe Torre listening to fans in the stands. But I’ll eat my hot dog, drink my beer and shout… WE WANT THE S65!
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L'Automobile Fra Diavolo by designman
Aug 13, 2006 (10:36 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 12, 2006 9:49 am)

Italian "soul" isn't really about handling. It's about the sound and fury of those V8s and V12s. The M5 doesn't have that.
 
I alluded to an owner’s perspective of both the Quattroporte and M5 in an earlier post. The E39 M5 is a car on my shortlist because it is on a performance-sedan pedestal in a price range I am willing to spend. It’s hard to compare the two because of distinct differences, and I refrain from further comparison because I have not driven it as mentioned. I am content to let others draw their own conclusions.
 
As far as the sound of engines, particularly Italian engines, it is a part of the hallmark but it is also an aural badge. Those who are star struck by Ferraris and other Italian cars will always point to the sound first. Nice, but it’s not the total picture, nor is it the most important part of the picture, far from it. I now cite your original comment:
 
It's [Quattroporte] not a well rounded car, but it is a fantastic Italian drivers car.
 
Whenever anyone points to “driver’s” cars the handling aspect cannot, I repeat CANNOT be ignored or written off cavalierly. Superior handling is a quality of all sports cars and sports sedans, Italian or otherwise, as is engine performance. Anyone who does not recognize this is not a true sports-car or sport-sedan enthusiast. “Soul” cannot rest on the laurels of sound. Sport aspires to nobler characteristics. Sound is merely the sizzle in the steak.
 
BTW, when considering ancillary characteristics, we might as well throw styling into the mix of what Italian soul is comprised of even if the designer of the Quattroporte, luminary Ken Okuyama, is Japanese and the creative director at Pininfarina. Nation of origin still influences, but I think this is becoming less so as the world shrinks.
 
Ah-h, Italian soul… a brisk drive in the country, returning home to the aroma of Locatelli, garlic and tomato sauce wafting to the heavens. Pours glass of wine, dips slice of pane di casa into the sauce, steals a piece of braccioli from pot and gets cracked over the knuckles by “a signora” for doing so.
 

 

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