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Sedans High End Luxury Cars
24699 messages, Last post on Nov 30, 2009 at 6:41 PM
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Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 12, 2006 1:12 pm)
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Replying to: topspin628 (Aug 12, 2006 2:23 pm) I meant the Volvo's system is driver adjustable. Automatic variable effort steering has been around for years and years. BMW was first with variable ratio steering, but I think Volvo may be the first with a driver adjustable setup. I dont know of any other cars that have it yet. |
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Replying to: topspin628 (Aug 12, 2006 7:02 am) I've never heard of the Audi A8L not feeling like a $70k-80k vehicle. My Audi along with everyone who has one probably knows that there are very few cars that have the quality that Audi puts into there cars. And the qualilty of the A8 is outstanding, as the many journals have reputed serveral times. The body is as swift as a bridge abutment and the powertrains are first rate. IT is one of the safest cars on the road and with the many gadgets this car has, one will never get bored driving it. And if you think the A8L is long, the 211" S550 is longer than the 205" A8L.
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Replying to: blkhemi (Aug 12, 2006 6:02 pm)
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Replying to: topspin628 (Aug 12, 2006 6:12 pm) With Audi, the way they put so much quality and precision in the A6 does in fact leave little to want in the A8. But the A8 does offer plenty of things that you can't get in the A6. And I can understand why you said you feel like a limo driver. The A8L's cabin is HUGE! The rear seat is the biggest in the segment and it is so far away from the driver that you do get that "chauffered" feel. But what I've heard about the new LS460L, this will indeed be a limo, with a massive 214" of length. I'm anticipating this car just like everyone else. So if you could wait a few months, you'll probably have more cars to choose. I saw where you mentioned that if MB brought the S450 over, then you'd consider it. I think that they may just do so when the LS drops this fall..
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Replying to: blkhemi (Aug 13, 2006 5:43 am) As for the "chauffeured feel", I like that when I'm in the back, I just didn't want to get the "chauffeuring feel"  I would love to hear a review of your A8 since it has garnered so much acclaim from the media. Are you usually with other passengers or alone? Does it now have bluetooth and satilite? I think when it first came out I was amazed that satellite radio was not an option. What car(S) did you have previously?
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I have a huge dillema. I had to part ways with my beloved W12 yesterday so that my daughter would have a car that better suits her needs for transportation with the new baby and all as her S4 Cab ain't gonna cut it. On yesterday, I almost cut the check for the S600 that I've been rambling about for the last couple of days. It has the perfect interior/exterior choice that I was actually going to order. The owner of the MB dealer(an old Marine/FBI Academy buddy) is going to sell it to me at cost. The problem is: Is the AMG versions that I am so passionate about actually worth the additional servicing requirements? And is the additional power of the S65 that much more important than the arguably best V12(behind Ferrari no doubt)on the marketplace? As many of you know, I owned an '05 S65 AMG that, while delivering explosive acceleration and an upped fun factor, just did not seem to be that much better than a S600(W-220). So I feel that with this car delivering a stout 510hp v. the AMG-fortified model delivering 603hp actually seems like overkill. As a G-Car fan, we're all about the excitement of driving. So I'm in a situation now that I've got to do something. The S600 offers the complete blend of performance and luxury, without the sacrifice of spoiling the fun with power overkill, as what I experienced in my S65. Unless you live in rural areas, there will be nowhere to enjoy that much power. So back to my original question: WHAT TO DO????? Remember that my wife and I sold her CLS55 AMG on anticipation that our Audi S8 will be arriving in Oct, which is still on schedule to do so. So with another performance-laden car coming, it seems frivilous to buy the S65. So should I buy now or wait to get my hands around an S63/65? Tag, hp, d-MAN, Merc, LG, reality, dewey(oops on vacation-welcome to the States), dh and anyone else with a respective and unbiased opinion, give me somethin'....... |
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Replying to: topspin628 (Aug 13, 2006 6:00 am) The interior quality, build, and layout is tops amongst it's competitors. The exterior is very elegant and classy. In my almost a year of ownership, the car has delivered 15k absolutely trouble-free miles, and I've got the W12, the car CR says not to buy. BEWARE: On your eventual car purchase, do not read into what the mag says as they gave the Jag and MB's black dots all around, yet these cars continue to deliver some of the best quality in the class, especially the Jaguar, considering that it is right there with Lexus on many fronts. I ordered my A8L W12 with every option under the sun. It does have bluetooth and Sat. radio. I ordered the full-leather dress up from roof to floor, the B&O sound system, park assistm, rear fridge, 20" wheels, dual pane glass(std.), solar fan in the sunroof(for cooling/heating while the car is parked), and the Audi Extended Protection plan up to 100k miles, something ANY luxury buyer should get on ANY luxo car as these cars hae enough electronics to keep Bill Gates up at night And the car's price range is very flexible, from $68k up to a wallet-crushing $155k. All in all, I couldn't have bought a better purchase last year. I sold the S65 AMG last year and traded the 760iL on the W12. Neither of those cars offered the complete blend of luxury, comfort, and performance as the W12 did, altho the new W221-platformed Merc. may do it better than the Audi judging from my earlier drives. But the car is still hugely competitive, and if AWD is a must, there is no car on the road today(yet) that can come close to the A8, which has quattro standard, and this makes the A8 as sure-footed as a mountain goat.. |
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Replying to: blkhemi (Aug 13, 2006 6:11 am) (However as a value player, I would be more interested in the S550). However, given your situation, I would have to wait and then compare models to avoid any potential disappointment. The reviews have been very favorable on the S600. 0-60 mph in 4.2 seconds. Geesh! Even so, expect more of a balance toward luxury than sport. It is after all, a HELM. From the photos, the interior looks absolutely gorgeous, as one should expect. The only thing negative I've read is one would need a long time to master all the sophisticated gadgetry. Also, there is the styling issue. Can you live with this design?
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Replying to: blkhemi (Aug 13, 2006 6:11 am) Pardon me if I missed something about the logistics of your decision, but can you wait long enough to do a direct comparison of the S600 and S65? (So that you eliminate all possible second guessing afterwards.) TagMan |
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