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Sedans High End Luxury Cars
24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM
You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 12, 2006 7:24 am) I hope the new S Class is improved in that area. That being said, I do agree that cars today are so much more reliable than in the past that the bar is raised so high to get a very good rating. This is a good thing for all of us. My 00 BMW 3 had 2 small annoyance fixed quickly and was flawless for 50K miles. And I loved driving it! MY wife's X5 actually had 2 occurances of computer malfunctions which rendered the car undriveable and it had to be towed. But to this day, she will tell you that it's her favorite car of all time. Now, can we get a car with great Euro driving dynamics and the bullet proof reliability of the Lexus? That would be crowned the "New Champion"
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Replying to: topspin628 (Aug 12, 2006 8:22 am) In real life . . . probably not. the Lexus is tops at reliability and no other cars, not even other Japanese cars, do as well, although some come pretty close. Interestingly, though, the latest generation of all-aluminum Jaguars do exceptionally well in the latest years of JD Power surveys, within a stone's throw of the Lexus on occasion. Incredible! I am not suggesting that a Jag is in your future, however, just remarking on the "reliability" topic. I would be willing to bet that the latest '07 S-class will start to accumulate some very good quality and reliabiity statistics as time goes. From what I know so far, it is doing very well. TagMan |
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Replying to: designman (Aug 12, 2006 5:43 am) Italian "soul" isn't really about handling. It's about the sound and fury of those V8s and V12s. The M5 doesn't have that.
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Replying to: topspin628 (Aug 12, 2006 8:22 am) Regardless of what LG says, anybody blind-folded can tell the difference between an Infiniti M and a BMW 5 Series. They are both fine vehicles, but the BMW has better steering and handling. The M has better brakes. BMW has taken reliability issues to heart and their sedans are getting better in that respect. I have had 3 problem-free BMW's-two 3 Series and a 13 month trouble-free 545. Sorry to hear about your wife's problems with the X5. The X5 has probably been BMW's most unreliable model over the years. I wouldn't touch one. I can't speak for you, but I feel the very small potential of a problem with any of the BMW sedans should not outweigh the incomparable rush you will feel driving one, as you already know. It's a terrific feeling being behind the wheel of a BMW. I hope you get to re-connect with one.
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Replying to: topspin628 (Aug 12, 2006 8:22 am) The Infiniti M comes very close. I believe the next G and FX will also fit this bill. The Jags have gotten very reliable, but the X and S type are mediocre cars, at best. The XJ is a good car, and more fun to drive than an LS430, but its not a match for the Germans, in speed or handling. Just look at this Fifth Gear shootout between a XJR and CLS55. The XJ is rolling all over the place, while the Mercedes stays remarkably flat in the corners for its size and weight. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBlORzxlGD0 |
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Replying to: dewey (Aug 11, 2006 7:26 pm)  You should be back in time to be one of the first to drive the fabulous, new twin-turbo BMW 335i Coupe. Looking forward to comparing notes. Have a great vacation! 
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 12, 2006 10:09 am) As for the Jag, I actually had forgotten in my initial post today, that I had taken that for a one day "test drive" and tried to love it because I really liked the exterior styling. Inside though, it was rather plain and the drive was neither sporty nor luxury. It just didn't hit for me on any front.
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Replying to: topspin628 (Aug 12, 2006 11:30 am) "Settled" for the 545 which I got for the same lease price as the X5 4.4. I would stay away from the 7 Series-not enough luxury to be seriously considered as a member of the HELM realm.
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