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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

#17994 of 24700 Re: Thanks Pat [blkhemi] by lexusguy Aug 11, 2006 (9:58 pm)
Replying to: blkhemi (Aug 11, 2006 6:35 pm) The interior has a unique flair to it. The choice of woods,plastics, and leathers are very appropiate for the 100k+ sticker, but closer scrutiny reveals the interior is not as well assembled as MB or Audi's. No huge biggie, what cars are?   I agree on the interiors. The German cars are, well German. The attention to the smallest details in the A8 and the new S is of course first rate. Every last piece has been calculated to absolute perfection. That, I think, is what German luxury is all about.   The inside of the QP is also incredibly luxurious, but in an Italian style. It's in the look, the feel, rather than ultimate build quality. The QP reminds me of the famous Italian speaker company, Sonus Faber. They use lute shaped cabinets, with hand matched wood panels, leather baffles, and silk wire grilles. To Sonus Faber, the look and feel is just as important as the sound quality.   The QP is not an engineering tour de force like the new S class, and it feels out of its element on bumpy city streets. What the QP does have though is soul inside and out, that you can't get from Jaguar, Mercedes, Audi, or BMW, and certainly not Lexus. It's not a well rounded car, but it is a fantastic Italian drivers car. Replies to this message: blkhemi (Aug 12, 2006 4:31 am) designman (Aug 12, 2006 5:43 am) lexusguy (Aug 12, 2006 9:49 am) designman (Aug 13, 2006 10:36 am) and 2 more... merc1 (Aug 13, 2006 9:08 pm) lexusguy (Aug 13, 2006 10:09 pm) merc1 (Aug 13, 2006 10:24 pm) and 2 more...
#17996 of 24700 Re: Thanks Pat [lexusguy] by blkhemi Aug 12, 2006 (4:31 am)
Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 11, 2006 9:58 pm) As usual LG, I appreciate your viewpoint. You're not scared to give a good nod on anything outside of Japan,   And yes, the soul of the QP is undoubtedly tops in the class.
#17999 of 24700 okay guys by pat HOST Aug 12, 2006 (4:57 am)
Some of us have been working hard to get this discussion back on the right track. Unfortunately there are a couple of you who don't want to cooperate. That's a real shame - this used to be such a high-class discussion. I know others join me in hating to see it going down the drain like this.   I have removed a bunch of posts whose primary purpose was to snipe at one or more other discussion members. I'm going to continue to do so.   If you are not able to keep your post focused on the cars, understand that it's not going to live very long.   Thanks to those who have been trying to get this ship righted. We would all appreciate everyone else's cooperation.
#18000 of 24700 Blkhemi,I haven't spent by dhamilton Aug 12, 2006 (5:19 am)
much time looking at the QP. I can tell you that looking at the S8 at the Audi driving event in Dallas [southfork ranch for he release of the Q7] It is as stunning a car in the class and I would bet the house that most people would say the same.  If I needed four doors that could perform like the QP then I might jump on it [finances permitting ] However, I would probably take a GT3RS for maybe a little more money and have an awesome track car. The S8 will scare the pants of any unsuspecting soul riding in the front, while those in back would have no idea.  My two cents, worth about two cents.
#18001 of 24700 Re: Thanks Pat [lexusguy] by designman Aug 12, 2006 (5:43 am)
Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 11, 2006 9:58 pm) The QP is not an engineering tour de force like the new S class, and it feels out of its element on bumpy city streets. What the QP does have though is soul inside and out, that you can't get from Jaguar, Mercedes, Audi, or BMW, and certainly not Lexus. It's not a well rounded car, but it is a fantastic Italian drivers car.   Basically, you are distinguishing between sport and luxury, road cars and living-room cars, and the levels at which they are achieved. Although I have not driven a Quattroporte I wouldn’t say you can’t get soul from a BMW. Their sport-tuned suspensions are impeccable. However a Quattroporte owner who also had an E39 M5 said he really likes the Q better.   I pine for said M5. Maybe I shouldn’t drive the Q lest I get ruined. I don’t know though, I’m not a fan of low low-end-torque and high redline in the heavyweights, not to mention the sequential gearbox. Plus, a slushbox contradicts that type of engine. Replies to this message: lexusguy (Aug 12, 2006 9:49 am) designman (Aug 13, 2006 10:36 am) lexusguy (Aug 13, 2006 11:31 am) tagman (Aug 13, 2006 1:30 pm)
#18002 of 24700 Re: Vacationing in the USA [dewey] by tagman Aug 12, 2006 (6:37 am)
Replying to: dewey (Aug 11, 2006 7:26 pm) Dewey - have a great vacation!   TagMan

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