High End Luxury Cars

24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#17960 of 24700 "Lexus.... by hpowders Aug 11, 2006 (1:15 am)
makes the best SUVs and flag-ship sedans on the planet." And yet the distinguished judges who issued the recent World Car Awards completely passed Lexus over. Go figure! Replies to this message: reality2 (Aug 11, 2006 8:42 am)
#17961 of 24700 Peugot 908 by dewey Aug 11, 2006 (4:45 am)
Look at this Peugeot 908 and you can see the Bangle influence around its rear end. In fact it kind of look like the new Camry. One exciting feature about this car is its drivetrain: An Audi contending LeMans 5.5 V12 diesel engine generating 700HP and 885LBs of torque.
#17962 of 24700 Re: "Lexus winning..... [stevekilburn] by dewey Aug 11, 2006 (7:04 am)
Replying to: stevekilburn (Aug 10, 2006 10:38 pm) Lexus makes the best SUVs and flag-ship sedans on the planet. LS has triumphed against all odds. It is the best-handling and most fun to drive HELM. More reliable, more gadgets, more fuel efficient, more luxurious and more elegant LOL, are you here to support Lexus ? Or are you here to ridicule the Lexus brand?
#17963 of 24700 Hemi by drfill Aug 11, 2006 (7:46 am)
"......the Supra, while a great 2+2 with a massive cult following, was not always tops. In fact, the 300ZX Twin Turbo won more comparos than any of it's competitors. And even tho the Supra was a Toyota, the Mitsu 3000GT actually had better build quality." Hemi, just say No to Blow! To update all who missed 3-4 years of mag covers in the mid-90's..... From June 1993 on, Supra Turbo was untouchable, until 5 years later, when the Vette was redesigned, and even then, C&D said it was within a hair of it! Don't even bring up the ZX, because I can name at least 3 comparisons where the Supra whupped it, crippling ZX resale values from then henseforth. The RX-7 was close, but the Rotary proved unreliable, to this day. And the car in general was less than Toyota-esque in quality. 3000GT? Pretty car, dug the facelift in '95, but too heavy, and NO MITSU, then, now, EVER, had better quality than the Supra, or any Toyota! Anything that can take 900+HP, with stock tranny and chassis, is a legendary stud! Secretariat! Period! Now back to our regularly scheduled HELM shouting matches, already in progress...... DrFill
#17964 of 24700 so steve by dhamilton Aug 11, 2006 (8:00 am)
already knows how the new LS handles? Where is his official review? "The best handling, most fun to drive HELM". I can't wait to read this, can anybody forward this groundbreaking article to me? In the meantime, might I suggest that team Europe go hide out in a cave, and quiver, over this stunning review, from this oh so experienced, car journalist, and human behaviorist. And now I must reveal a stunning bit of information, surprising to no one, Steve is team Europes best ally. Sorry to break your cover dude but, oh well, you kind of did it yourself with your last two posts.
#17965 of 24700 Re: "Lexus.... [hpowders] by reality2 Aug 11, 2006 (8:42 am)
Replying to: hpowders (Aug 11, 2006 1:15 am) Simple. Lexus doesn't represent a global marquee. American jingoism for Lexus is cute, but holds no merit in the global Tier 1 marketplace ruled by Audi, BMW, and Mercedes-Benz. Merc1 you have it right! Lexus is a nice luxury branded vehicle but that is all.
#17968 of 24700 Re: "Lexus winning..... [stevekilburn] by hpowders Aug 11, 2006 (9:19 am)
Replying to: stevekilburn (Aug 10, 2006 10:38 pm) Hey Steve! Welcome back to the HELM board! I have missed your refreshing, penetrating posts. I especially enjoy reading about your insights concerning the pride of Lexus, the LS.