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24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM
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Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: maxhonda99 (Aug 10, 2006 6:26 pm) You ask whom? Merely the most distinguished auto journalists around the world. That's who! World Car of the Year (WCOTY) is a program initiated by, organized by, and conducted by automotive journalists from all over the world. From the outset, those of us involved in making it a reality have done so in the context of one over-riding priority. We are dedicated to ensuring that it is carried out with the utmost objectivity, credibility, and integrity. WCOTY has no affiliation with, nor is it is any way influenced by any publication, auto show, automaker, or other commercial enterprise. It is administered by a non-profit corporation, under the guidance of a Steering Committee of distinguished automotive journalists from Asia, Europe, and North America. In that way, it draws on the experience and expertise already developed by various other award programs throughout the world. It is intended to complement, not compete with those existing national and regional COTY awards, which are inherently different in scope. By its nature, WCOTY includes some vehicles that may be unavailable in individual regions, and excludes others whose availability may be limited to those regions. |
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Replying to: dewey (Aug 10, 2006 6:38 pm) 2005: Audi A6-line 2006: BMW 3-Series ..and for definition, the award does not apply to the carmaker as a whole, but to a specific model. So, BMW did not win World Car of the Year as a brand, only the 3-Series for 2006. |
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Replying to: blkhemi (Aug 10, 2006 11:51 am) A6- unique to Audi A4- unique to Audi """ Actually get a reality check, the A4 is not a unique Audi platform. It's been a Passat platform underneath for years. You can bet platform sharing is growing too. You can eventually bet on a Audi A6 being spun out of a stretched Passat platform also. Not to mention you can bet on Benz's and Chrysler products sharing platforms. it's already started with products like the Crossfire and SLk, and it's moving onto to parts sharing like transmissions from Benz's being in Chrysler's now as well as suspension component's. it's not far before a 300 and a E-class could end up using the same platform. They will have to do it to be more competitive and to produce cars more efficiently. You can thank Toyota for that! |
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Replying to: dewey (Aug 10, 2006 6:38 pm) I'm now convinced, BMW is THE "WORLD CAR OF THE YEAR". I'm going to go out any buy one right now. Maybe the wonderfully hideous 7-series. BTW, do you have a list of their past world car of the year award winners???
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Replying to: oac (Aug 10, 2006 4:49 pm) And moreover, please think before you stroke your keyboard. True, one of the very few useful innovations that Lexus thought up was the car-based lux crowd(not the concept itself). But with this 2nd gen, the RX is indeed based off of the '02 Highlander, no matter how you look at it. It has absolutely no differences in suspension and powertrain. And to add insult to injury, the waste of HSD Toyota put into these car-trucks is yet another one of their blunders, with them turning into dinosaurs on the lots. Lexus to offer a "deal" on the RX400h AND GS450h in the middle of fuel crisis? Now that's innovation and perfection...... |
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Replying to: maxhonda99 (Aug 10, 2006 6:46 pm) You can bet platform sharing is growing too. You can eventually bet on a Audi A6 being spun out of a stretched Passat platform also. Actually, the new Passat is I believe Jetta based. I'm not sure about the '02-present A4, but the next car is based on a universal Audi architecture called MLP that is supposed to go into the next A6 and A8 as well. Its the one that will finally give the A4 (and I assume the rest of the sedans) a proper front-mid engine layout. VWs wont get it. The A5, Q5, and A7 are also supposed to be on this platform. Chrysler and Mercedes on the other hand are moving closer together. Until now Chrysler's using Mercedes parts have been last generation, obsolete Mercedes (SLK320\Crossfire, E430\300C). Chrysler is using Mercedes' 5-speeds, but I dont think they have access to the 7-speed. That may change when they start sharing "phoenix" engines.
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Replying to: maxhonda99 (Aug 10, 2006 6:46 pm) A nice try, almost poetic, close, but far from the cigar. Go back to the drawing board and draw out another plan to try and upset the superior set. |
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Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 10, 2006 6:57 pm) As for DCX, the new plan will be to give the Chrysler cars the new technology that current MB's have. The next-gen LY platform cars will get for the first time MB engines and powertrains. It's already starting with the MB Bluetec diesel being available in some cars/SUV's already.
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Replying to: maxhonda99 (Aug 10, 2006 6:51 pm) 2005 Award went to the Audi A6 2006 Award went to the 3 series I dont believe there were Awards prior to 2005. |
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Replying to: drfill (Aug 10, 2006 5:09 am) There is no variation there, its either trucks, suvs or sedans. Yawn! Toyota is the most uptight of the Japanese brands by far and no amount of warming over the same chassis to create sedans/suvs/trucks is going to count as any type of "variation". Toyota is about quality, reliable, transportation devices, period. One sports car since 1993 is pitiful especially since according to all the Toyota worshipers here Toyota can do anything it wants. Apparently they can't make one truly exciting car. Toyota and Lexus = Quality, Dullard, Consumer Goods. M |
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