High End Luxury Cars

24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#17921 of 24700 Re: Merc [lexusguy] by blkhemi Aug 10, 2006 (1:38 pm)
Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 10, 2006 11:51 am) C'mon, LG. I really like the way you converse as you're more of a moderate than a devout "Lexus is better than anything with four wheels" crowd. BUT, the Supra, while a great 2+2 with a massive cult following, was not always tops. In fact, the 300ZX Twin Turbo won more comparos than any of it's competitors. And even tho the Supra was a Toyota, the Mitsu 3000GT actually had better build quality. The only low man on the todem pole was the RX. It did not pass the rigorous US emission tests, and the quality was not the best. And of them all, the 3000GT VR4 Spyder actually holds it's vale better than them all. There is one around here listed for 25k, a 10 year old Japanese sports car. Replies to this message: lexusguy (Aug 10, 2006 2:01 pm)
#17922 of 24700 Re: Merc [blkhemi] by houdini1 Aug 10, 2006 (1:50 pm)
Replying to: blkhemi (Aug 10, 2006 1:28 pm) If you share, you share. It's like being just a little bit pregnant! Next time don't ask a question unless you want an answer! I know LG's answer stung because you went into full trash Lexus mode!!
#17923 of 24700 Re: Merc [blkhemi] by lexusguy Aug 10, 2006 (1:58 pm)
Replying to: blkhemi (Aug 10, 2006 1:28 pm) NO OTHER PREMIUM MARQUE CROSS-SHARES AS MUCH AS TOYOTA/LEXUS. Not true. Acura's entire line is platform shared with Honda products. RL = Honda Accord TL = Honda Accord TSX = Accord Euro MDX = Pilot RDX = CR-V If you ask me, getting into "who shares the most" arguments is pretty pointless. There's nothing inherently "wrong" or "evil" with platform sharing. It can be done well, (TL, ES) or poorly (Zephyr, X-type). Its up to the consumer to decide wether the premium is worth it. Replies to this message: blkhemi (Aug 10, 2006 3:27 pm) lexusguy (Aug 10, 2006 4:00 pm)
#17924 of 24700 Re: Merc [blkhemi] by lexusguy Aug 10, 2006 (2:01 pm)
Replying to: blkhemi (Aug 10, 2006 1:38 pm) And of them all, the 3000GT VR4 Spyder actually holds it's vale better than them all. There is one around here listed for 25k, a 10 year old Japanese sports car. Only because it was so rare (something like 700 were made in two years of production, and their original sticker was 911 CS money), and there was no comparable version of the Supra. The much more common 3000GT VR4 coupe will be worth less than a good condition Supra TT.
#17926 of 24700 Re: Merc [lexusguy] by hpowders Aug 10, 2006 (2:23 pm)
Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 10, 2006 1:21 pm) "He really likes to pick on the LS to try and get "team Japan" agitated. It really doesn't work." Oh no? So why is it that when team Lexus members attempt to answer my posts, it seems like their blood pressure is at least 200/130 and their words border on the hysterical? That is, if you can filter through all the rhetoric and see if they are actually saying anything which some Club Euro-German members and I find doubtful at best. One of your Team Lexus members was so intimidated by one of my statements, he tried to attribute it to poor Dewey for fear of encountering me directly. Replies to this message: stevekilburn (Aug 10, 2006 3:18 pm) lexusguy (Aug 10, 2006 3:59 pm) merc1 (Aug 10, 2006 9:24 pm)
#17927 of 24700 platform sharing of HELMs by stevekilburn Aug 10, 2006 (3:18 pm)
Replying to: hpowders (Aug 10, 2006 2:23 pm) Platform sharing is done by every automaker. Some automakers are more honest than others and their platform sharing strategy is in public domain. Examples, VW, Honda, Toyota, GM and Nissan. Some other automakers hide this information and use marketing deception and outright fraud. Their lingo is "Nothing which a customer sees, hears or touches should be common, but the rest of the platform can be shared between a 30K and a 70K model". Ford and DCX are experts in this marketing trickery. Even though Aston Martin shares all the underpinnings with Jaguar and Ford, they are passed of as platforms UNIQUE TO so and so. And insecure customers lacking in IQ and refined taste gladly spend those dynastic dollars on this deception. After all, with plenty of inherited wealth which their forefathers earned they do not know the value of money and the right way to use it. Hence the explosive sales of HELMs. Thats the difference between british playboys who are enjoying the loot of their ancestors and Bill Gates who is happy with an odd 911 or an LS 400 and focuses on creativity, knowledge and charity. Replies to this message: lexusguy (Aug 10, 2006 3:59 pm) merc1 (Aug 10, 2006 9:24 pm)
#17928 of 24700 Re: Merc [lexusguy] by blkhemi Aug 10, 2006 (3:27 pm)
Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 10, 2006 1:58 pm) LG, I thought it was the Lexus set who said Acura is nothing more than an Honda with a better service department, so Acura doesn't count, does it? But you're right, this arguement is pointless as EVERYBODY platform share. Some do it more often than others, and as you put it, it saves the companies more money that in turn makes it easier to sell there cars. Even the mighty Bentleys platform share, with the wicked FS an extention of the GT Coupe. Replies to this message: lexusguy (Aug 10, 2006 4:00 pm)
#17929 of 24700 Mr.Magic by blkhemi Aug 10, 2006 (3:31 pm)
I did not go on a "I hate Lexus" spree as you'd have it. That's what you want me to do, but the players here at Team FunCar have to much poise and class for that..
#17930 of 24700 Re: platform sharing of HELMs [stevekilburn] by lexusguy Aug 10, 2006 (3:59 pm)
Replying to: stevekilburn (Aug 10, 2006 3:18 pm) Ford and DCX are experts in this marketing trickery. Even though Aston Martin shares all the underpinnings with Jaguar and Ford, they are passed of as platforms UNIQUE TO so and so. Good point there. I was very surprised when Top Gear mentioned that the Aston Martin DB7 was a Jaguar XJ-S underneath.