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24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM
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Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 10, 2006 11:54 am) Yes the GTI and R32 use a version of the DSG. That's not big news. But I can say that at least Audi makes this sharing less obvious than some of the Pacific brands........ |
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Replying to: houdini1 (Aug 10, 2006 12:53 pm) I believe it was hpowders, he likes to pick on the LS to try and get "team Japan" agitated. It really doesn't work. The LS has a Lexus specific platform, engine, and gearbox. Just like Audi, they platform share with entry level products such as the ES and RX in order to keep costs down, ultimately benefitting the consumer. |
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Replying to: houdini1 (Aug 10, 2006 12:53 pm) NO OTHER PREMIUM MARQUE CROSS-SHARES AS MUCH AS TOYOTA/LEXUS. LX470= Land Cruiser, a 15 year old design. GX470= A Toyota 4Runner that is so tall it breaks the adhesion limit quite easy. ES350= A mere Camry, with the lesser car looking better in SE trim. RX350= A soft-edged Highlander that is faster and simpler than it's RX400h counterpart Thankfully, the tired LS platfform will be taken out in the pasture and put down. The IS250/350 is a welcome breath of fresh air, altho it will be once again looked over due to the superior new competition. And the GS. Well, in a need to elaborate, the car is the worst in the company's lineup, yes even behind the hoary old LX. What is it's true purpose cause chasin' the prodigous 5-Series and A6 ain't happenin'. The car is cramped, underpowered(base version for now), underwhelming for it's intended purpose. Want to leave a mark? Why has the king of all things perfect dropped the advertising for the lamest car in the class? |
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Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 10, 2006 11:51 am) BUT, the Supra, while a great 2+2 with a massive cult following, was not always tops. In fact, the 300ZX Twin Turbo won more comparos than any of it's competitors. And even tho the Supra was a Toyota, the Mitsu 3000GT actually had better build quality. The only low man on the todem pole was the RX. It did not pass the rigorous US emission tests, and the quality was not the best. And of them all, the 3000GT VR4 Spyder actually holds it's vale better than them all. There is one around here listed for 25k, a 10 year old Japanese sports car.
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Replying to: blkhemi (Aug 10, 2006 1:28 pm) |
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Replying to: blkhemi (Aug 10, 2006 1:28 pm) Not true. Acura's entire line is platform shared with Honda products. RL = Honda Accord TL = Honda Accord TSX = Accord Euro MDX = Pilot RDX = CR-V If you ask me, getting into "who shares the most" arguments is pretty pointless. There's nothing inherently "wrong" or "evil" with platform sharing. It can be done well, (TL, ES) or poorly (Zephyr, X-type). Its up to the consumer to decide wether the premium is worth it.
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Replying to: blkhemi (Aug 10, 2006 1:38 pm) Only because it was so rare (something like 700 were made in two years of production, and their original sticker was 911 CS money), and there was no comparable version of the Supra. The much more common 3000GT VR4 coupe will be worth less than a good condition Supra TT. |
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Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 10, 2006 1:21 pm) Oh no? So why is it that when team Lexus members attempt to answer my posts, it seems like their blood pressure is at least 200/130 and their words border on the hysterical? That is, if you can filter through all the rhetoric and see if they are actually saying anything which some Club Euro-German members and I find doubtful at best. One of your Team Lexus members was so intimidated by one of my statements, he tried to attribute it to poor Dewey for fear of encountering me directly. 
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 10, 2006 2:23 pm) Some other automakers hide this information and use marketing deception and outright fraud. Their lingo is "Nothing which a customer sees, hears or touches should be common, but the rest of the platform can be shared between a 30K and a 70K model". Ford and DCX are experts in this marketing trickery. Even though Aston Martin shares all the underpinnings with Jaguar and Ford, they are passed of as platforms UNIQUE TO so and so. And insecure customers lacking in IQ and refined taste gladly spend those dynastic dollars on this deception. After all, with plenty of inherited wealth which their forefathers earned they do not know the value of money and the right way to use it. Hence the explosive sales of HELMs. Thats the difference between british playboys who are enjoying the loot of their ancestors and Bill Gates who is happy with an odd 911 or an LS 400 and focuses on creativity, knowledge and charity.
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