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Sedans High End Luxury Cars
24697 messages, Last post on Nov 28, 2009 at 3:09 PM
You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 10, 2006 11:26 am) Don't forget the loose steering ratio on the LS which isn't going to change with a sport package. Your 545 is w-a-a-y tighter.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 10, 2006 8:27 am) A8- unique to Audi(the Phaeton is all steel, with Audi's chassis) A6- unique to Audi A4- unique to Audi Now, I'll suffice it to say and give you credit on the A3. It is a Golf(Rabbit) derivative. But it too has been Audi fortified with quattro and 3.2L V6/DSG, none available on the Golf. And the Q7: Audi designed this platform in '01 for Porsche, Audi, and VW collab. Audi designed the powertrains(except Porsche's 4.5L V8's), 4WD systems, systems, interior layouts, and suspensions. I'm confused? What platforms again?
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Aug 10, 2006 9:01 am) Perhaps you are right. What I was getting at though is that the Supra is the car that people remember from the '90s Japanese sports car craze. If you look online the Turbos have held their value very well. The 300ZX and 3000GT on the other hand, worthless.
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Replying to: blkhemi (Aug 10, 2006 11:51 am) You're forgetting about the TT. The old one was VW based, and so is the new one. The Q3 is also going to use a VW platform. Also, while it may say "Quattro" on the back, some of these small Audis use a Haldex clutch, borrowed from VW's "4Motion" systems. They are not "true" Torsen Audi Quattros, if you want to get nitpicky. You're also forgetting the Golf GTI, which has the same DSG box as the A3.
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Replying to: designman (Aug 10, 2006 11:47 am) |
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Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 10, 2006 11:54 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 10, 2006 11:54 am) Yes the GTI and R32 use a version of the DSG. That's not big news. But I can say that at least Audi makes this sharing less obvious than some of the Pacific brands........ |
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Replying to: houdini1 (Aug 10, 2006 12:53 pm) I believe it was hpowders, he likes to pick on the LS to try and get "team Japan" agitated. It really doesn't work. The LS has a Lexus specific platform, engine, and gearbox. Just like Audi, they platform share with entry level products such as the ES and RX in order to keep costs down, ultimately benefitting the consumer. |
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Replying to: houdini1 (Aug 10, 2006 12:53 pm) NO OTHER PREMIUM MARQUE CROSS-SHARES AS MUCH AS TOYOTA/LEXUS. LX470= Land Cruiser, a 15 year old design. GX470= A Toyota 4Runner that is so tall it breaks the adhesion limit quite easy. ES350= A mere Camry, with the lesser car looking better in SE trim. RX350= A soft-edged Highlander that is faster and simpler than it's RX400h counterpart Thankfully, the tired LS platfform will be taken out in the pasture and put down. The IS250/350 is a welcome breath of fresh air, altho it will be once again looked over due to the superior new competition. And the GS. Well, in a need to elaborate, the car is the worst in the company's lineup, yes even behind the hoary old LX. What is it's true purpose cause chasin' the prodigous 5-Series and A6 ain't happenin'. The car is cramped, underpowered(base version for now), underwhelming for it's intended purpose. Want to leave a mark? Why has the king of all things perfect dropped the advertising for the lamest car in the class? |
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Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 10, 2006 11:51 am) BUT, the Supra, while a great 2+2 with a massive cult following, was not always tops. In fact, the 300ZX Twin Turbo won more comparos than any of it's competitors. And even tho the Supra was a Toyota, the Mitsu 3000GT actually had better build quality. The only low man on the todem pole was the RX. It did not pass the rigorous US emission tests, and the quality was not the best. And of them all, the 3000GT VR4 Spyder actually holds it's vale better than them all. There is one around here listed for 25k, a 10 year old Japanese sports car.
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