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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Re: Die-hard BMW fans..... [hpowders] by designman
Aug 10, 2006 (8:09 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 10, 2006 7:08 am)

Using your opinions as my most reliable contrary indicator, I will be placing my order for a 2009 5 Series as soon as humanly possible.
 
Yeah yeah (plays fiddle). Wait 'til the Lexicans get on a roll when the 460 comes out, then you'll be buying an LS. Then you'll be back to the M, GS. G35, Cayman, this car, that car...
 
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Re: Merc [tagman] by lexusguy
Aug 10, 2006 (8:27 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Aug 10, 2006 7:24 am)

While I will readily state that it certainly had some terrific attributes, I would be very curious to know who else on this forum would agree with your statement that the Supra was the representation that Toyota can make the best sports car in the world?
 
It would be nice to see another Toyota with cross-drilled brake rotors, corner load sensing ABS, a limited-slip diff (unlike the "marketed" Cayman) and a six-speed manual. 320hp would be nice, too. I dont think the '93 Supra was the best sports car in the world at the time, but it was better than its direct competition, the C4 Vette, RX-7, 300ZX, and 3000GT. For whatever its worth, nobody cares about any of those cars anymore, but the Supra has achieved legend status like the GT-R. An engine capable of over 800hp certainly helps.
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Re: Merc [lexusguy] by tayl0rd
Aug 10, 2006 (9:01 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 10, 2006 8:27 am)

Nobody actually cares about the Supra, either. Outside of the handful of 800+HP dyno queens, what do you hear about the Supra? I have not ever heard anyone talk about its driving dynamics, handling, performance, etc. The only thing I ever hear about is how fast it is in a straight line... from a roll... on the freeway... at night.
 
That and those totally unbiased Best Motoring videos.
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Europhiles Desperate by houdini1
Aug 10, 2006 (10:39 am)
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Lexus already rules the roost here in the U.S. (nowhere else really matters..and that's not even debatable). Once the new LS 460 hits the market the europhiles know they are finished.
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I by dhamilton
Aug 10, 2006 (11:03 am)
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would debate you on that. I think it important in this day and age to maintain a world wide view of things, rather than just what happens here in the States. Otherwise you tend to get insulated and narrow minded. Take people in the hills of west Virginia that never come out. Dumb as stump? In our global, internet, cell phone dominated world? Yes. Having a view of things with a bigger lens is almost always best IMO.
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Re: Die-hard BMW fans..... [designman] by hpowders
Aug 10, 2006 (11:26 am)
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Replying to: designman (Aug 10, 2006 8:09 am)

The only way I get an LS is if they offer a true sport package like Toyota does with the Camry SE.
I actually saw the word "fun" used in a review of the new Camry SE.
 
Not only will the LS handle better in this mode, but it would look a lot better too.
 
The Cayman has been eliminated for practical reasons.
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Re: I [dhamilton] by houdini1
Aug 10, 2006 (11:36 am)
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Replying to: dhamilton (Aug 10, 2006 11:03 am)

Yes, certainly you could debate that if we were talking about anything really, really important. Cars, NO!! I do not know, nor do I care what they are driving in Turkey these days. And what they are driving in Turkey, France, or you name it, is not going to affect my U.S. car buying habits.
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Re: Die-hard BMW fans..... [hpowders] by designman
Aug 10, 2006 (11:47 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 10, 2006 11:26 am)

The only way I get an LS is if they offer a true sport package like Toyota does with the Camry SE.
 
Don't forget the loose steering ratio on the LS which isn't going to change with a sport package. Your 545 is w-a-a-y tighter.
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Re: Merc [lexusguy] by blkhemi
Aug 10, 2006 (11:51 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 10, 2006 8:27 am)

Um, LG? What platforms does Audi share with VW?
 
A8- unique to Audi(the Phaeton is all steel, with Audi's chassis)
 
A6- unique to Audi
 
A4- unique to Audi
 
Now, I'll suffice it to say and give you credit on the A3. It is a Golf(Rabbit) derivative. But it too has been Audi fortified with quattro and 3.2L V6/DSG, none available on the Golf.
 
And the Q7: Audi designed this platform in '01 for Porsche, Audi, and VW collab. Audi designed the powertrains(except Porsche's 4.5L V8's), 4WD systems, systems, interior layouts, and suspensions.
 
I'm confused? What platforms again?
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Re: Merc [tayl0rd] by lexusguy
Aug 10, 2006 (11:51 am)
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Aug 10, 2006 9:01 am)

Nobody actually cares about the Supra, either. Outside of the handful of 800+HP dyno queens, what do you hear about the Supra? I have not ever heard anyone talk about its driving dynamics, handling, performance, etc. The only thing I ever hear about is how fast it is in a straight line... from a roll... on the freeway... at night.
 
Perhaps you are right. What I was getting at though is that the Supra is the car that people remember from the '90s Japanese sports car craze. If you look online the Turbos have held their value very well. The 300ZX and 3000GT on the other hand, worthless.

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