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You are in the Sedans Forum.

What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#17902 of 24723 Re: Die-hard BMW fans..... [dewey] by designman

Aug 10, 2006 (7:58 am)

Replying to: dewey (Aug 09, 2006 4:35 am)
Nothing radically new about the X5 looks. It appears BMW is playing it safe with the styling of their newer models.
  
I saw a picture of what the new 2009 BMW 5 series may look like in the September Automobile Magazine. The styling of this car appears very conservative. Maybe Chris Bangle is under some kind of restraining order and is not allowed to enter any BMW design studios/premises?
  
Designman,
it appears BMW is reading your posts.
 
I like the new X5. They got rid of the midriff bulge that runs above the rocker panels. Everything looks very integrated and nothing screams for bad-haircut attention. It also looks like that character line (ridge) below the beltline is becoming a common theme across platforms.
 
On the other hand the 2009 5-series photoillustration that appeared in Automobile is another shapeless abomination. The butt is s-o-o nowhere, the tail lights are Dumbo city. Saving grace is that it’s only an illustration.
 
I have to believe car companies forage the web as research in some manner. Think I’ll apply for a job at BMW and tell them I’m designman… see what they say. But then again Merc probably would have been e-mailed job offers by now... Doctor M!
 

#17903 of 24723 Re: Die-hard BMW fans..... [designman] by hpowders

Aug 10, 2006 (8:08 am)

Replying to: designman (Jun 13, 2006 5:01 am)
Using your opinions as my most reliable contrary indicator, I will be placing my order for a 2009 5 Series as soon as humanly possible.

#17904 of 24723 Re: Merc [drfill] by tagman

Aug 10, 2006 (8:24 am)

Replying to: drfill (Aug 10, 2006 6:09 am)
BTW, Toyota made the Supra in 1993, and showed that they can make the best sports car in the world (yes, internationally), if they so choose to.
 
Doc . . . I know you liked the Supra, and you liked it a lot. But, for crying out loud "the best sports car in the world?" Absolutely an exaggeration.
 
While I will readily state that it certainly had some terrific attributes, I would be very curious to know who else on this forum would agree with your statement that the Supra was the representation that Toyota can make the best sports car in the world?
 
I have no doubt that Toyota could make a great sports car, but let's be honest, aren't you stretching things a bit here?
 
TagMan

#17905 of 24723 Re: Die-hard BMW fans..... [hpowders] by designman

Aug 10, 2006 (9:09 am)

Replying to: hpowders (Aug 10, 2006 8:08 am)
Using your opinions as my most reliable contrary indicator, I will be placing my order for a 2009 5 Series as soon as humanly possible.
 
Yeah yeah (plays fiddle). Wait 'til the Lexicans get on a roll when the 460 comes out, then you'll be buying an LS. Then you'll be back to the M, GS. G35, Cayman, this car, that car...
 

#17906 of 24723 Re: Merc [tagman] by lexusguy

Aug 10, 2006 (9:27 am)

Replying to: tagman (Aug 10, 2006 8:24 am)
While I will readily state that it certainly had some terrific attributes, I would be very curious to know who else on this forum would agree with your statement that the Supra was the representation that Toyota can make the best sports car in the world?
 
It would be nice to see another Toyota with cross-drilled brake rotors, corner load sensing ABS, a limited-slip diff (unlike the "marketed" Cayman) and a six-speed manual. 320hp would be nice, too. I dont think the '93 Supra was the best sports car in the world at the time, but it was better than its direct competition, the C4 Vette, RX-7, 300ZX, and 3000GT. For whatever its worth, nobody cares about any of those cars anymore, but the Supra has achieved legend status like the GT-R. An engine capable of over 800hp certainly helps.

#17907 of 24723 Re: Merc [lexusguy] by tayl0rd

Aug 10, 2006 (10:01 am)

Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 10, 2006 9:27 am)
Nobody actually cares about the Supra, either. Outside of the handful of 800+HP dyno queens, what do you hear about the Supra? I have not ever heard anyone talk about its driving dynamics, handling, performance, etc. The only thing I ever hear about is how fast it is in a straight line... from a roll... on the freeway... at night.
 
That and those totally unbiased Best Motoring videos.

#17908 of 24723 Europhiles Desperate by houdini1

Aug 10, 2006 (11:39 am)

Lexus already rules the roost here in the U.S. (nowhere else really matters..and that's not even debatable). Once the new LS 460 hits the market the europhiles know they are finished.

#17909 of 24723 I by dhamilton

Aug 10, 2006 (12:03 pm)

would debate you on that. I think it important in this day and age to maintain a world wide view of things, rather than just what happens here in the States. Otherwise you tend to get insulated and narrow minded. Take people in the hills of west Virginia that never come out. Dumb as stump? In our global, internet, cell phone dominated world? Yes. Having a view of things with a bigger lens is almost always best IMO.

#17910 of 24723 Re: Die-hard BMW fans..... [designman] by hpowders

Aug 10, 2006 (12:26 pm)

Replying to: designman (Aug 10, 2006 9:09 am)
The only way I get an LS is if they offer a true sport package like Toyota does with the Camry SE.
I actually saw the word "fun" used in a review of the new Camry SE.
 
Not only will the LS handle better in this mode, but it would look a lot better too.
 
The Cayman has been eliminated for practical reasons.

#17911 of 24723 Re: I [dhamilton] by houdini1

Aug 10, 2006 (12:36 pm)

Replying to: dhamilton (Aug 10, 2006 12:03 pm)
Yes, certainly you could debate that if we were talking about anything really, really important. Cars, NO!! I do not know, nor do I care what they are driving in Turkey these days. And what they are driving in Turkey, France, or you name it, is not going to affect my U.S. car buying habits.

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