High End Luxury Cars

24648 messages, Last post on Feb 17, 2009 at 11:03 AM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#17892 of 24648 Re: Mercedes more dependable than Porsche ! [tagman] by merc1 Aug 09, 2006 (10:00 pm)
Replying to: tagman (Aug 09, 2006 2:45 pm) So, the JDP study shows Mercedes Benz, the often accused repair shop lizard, as just a bit below average, which is certainly no nightmare as it is often portrayed. And . . . it is rated better then Porsche and even Hyundai, which have been getting lots of quality kudos lately. And this for 2003, the year of the awful E-Class and SL which were brand new that year. Go figure. M Replies to this message: lexusguy (Aug 09, 2006 10:12 pm) merc1 (Aug 09, 2006 10:18 pm)
#17893 of 24648 Re: Mercedes more dependable than Porsche ! [merc1] by lexusguy Aug 09, 2006 (10:12 pm)
Replying to: merc1 (Aug 09, 2006 10:00 pm) And this for 2003, the year of the awful E-Class and SL which were brand new that year. Go figure. Stranger still is that Porsche's very poor showing came from Boxsters and 911s, which are supposed to be very reliable. The Cayenne won't be included until next year's VDS. Replies to this message: merc1 (Aug 09, 2006 10:18 pm)
#17894 of 24648 Re: Mercedes more dependable than Porsche ! [lexusguy] by merc1 Aug 09, 2006 (10:18 pm)
Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 09, 2006 10:12 pm) That is why I just can't get too excited about or understand people that worship these surveys and take them as the absolute and ultimate truth about reliability. M
#17895 of 24648 BMW 7 Future by topspin628 Aug 10, 2006 (5:30 am)
I read that BMW is working on a turbo 8 cyl. that might be for the next 7 series. Does anyone think that they will also offer all wheel drive? It would seem to make sense since they now have X drive versions for each of their series: 3, 5, suv of course and now will offer the coupe in X drive. If they don't offer it in the 7, I think it's a big mistake especially if they want to combat the new S Class. By the way, I think that Lexus misses the boat on this as well with the LS. Why not offer all wheel drive on the new LS?
#17896 of 24648 Re: Dewey [drfill] by dewey Aug 10, 2006 (5:39 am)
Replying to: drfill (Aug 09, 2006 8:55 pm) drfill, one Ting and only one Ting. you have mixed me up with another poster! You are accusing me of a statement that I have not written. I do have the right to remain silent until I see my lawyer.
#17897 of 24648 Merc by drfill Aug 10, 2006 (6:09 am)
You've got to be joking if you think Toyota offers any kind of "variation". They're the dullest, most boring mainstream brand going. Nissan and Honda are much more "diverse" and offer more "variation". Ditto for Mercedes and BMW compared to Lexus. Toyota is a lot of things, but diverse isn't one of them. Have to correct you there. Even though Toyota has forgotten about the sports car market, they still make Best-selling Tacoma, have legendary truck heritage with Land Cruiser/FJ Cruiser, INNOVATIVE (Yes, I said INNOVATIVE) SUVs like the RX, they make great cars, great hybrids, and they've sold a luxury car or two through some scrub off-shoot......I forget the name of it right now. But it's doing ok. Certainly nothing to shout about. I'm sorry making viceless cars/trucks/SUVs that do their owners bidding expertly, but doesn't bring you to a cold sweat, is such an offense. BTW, Toyota made the Supra in 1993, and showed that they can make the best sports car in the world (yes, internationally), if they so choose to. The pot wasn't big enough at the end of the rainbow, so now we sit and mourn the loss. Don't hate us 'cause we're beautiful! DrFill Replies to this message: tagman (Aug 10, 2006 8:24 am) lexusguy (Aug 10, 2006 9:27 am) tayl0rd (Aug 10, 2006 10:01 am) and 3 more... blkhemi (Aug 10, 2006 12:51 pm) and 27 more... merc1 (Aug 10, 2006 10:14 pm)
#17898 of 24648 Sorry, D by drfill Aug 10, 2006 (6:09 am)
But you can tell by my posts that I've gone senile! Yesterday I rebooted my TV set.....kinda. DrFill Replies to this message: dewey (Aug 10, 2006 7:15 am)
#17899 of 24648 Score Card for International Awards by hpowders Aug 10, 2006 (7:11 am)
BMW: World Car of The Year Audi: South African Car of The Year Subaru: International Engine of The Year Lexus: Uhhhh....who??? Well, that pretty much covers it. Take your language dictionaries to any place on this planet and ask the native folk, which is the best car in the world and more often than not, assuming they understand your question (speak slowly), the answer will come back "BMW" more often than not. Very satisfying! Replies to this message: oac (Aug 10, 2006 5:35 pm) hpowders (Aug 10, 2006 5:54 pm) dewey (Aug 10, 2006 7:24 pm) maxhonda99 (Aug 10, 2006 7:37 pm) maxhonda99 (Aug 10, 2006 7:26 pm) dewey (Aug 10, 2006 7:38 pm) reality2 (Aug 10, 2006 7:44 pm) maxhonda99 (Aug 10, 2006 7:51 pm) and 2 more... hpowders (Aug 10, 2006 11:58 pm)
#17900 of 24648 Re: Sorry, D [drfill] by dewey Aug 10, 2006 (7:15 am)
Replying to: drfill (Aug 10, 2006 6:09 am) Thanks Doc, now I can break my vow of silence
#17901 of 24648 A Lexus Guide by dewey Aug 10, 2006 (7:28 am)
Here is one contribution that Lexus is making in the automotive industry : link title I dont know how I survived decades of owning a car without this helpful Valet Guide?