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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Re: "Lexus winning..... [oac] by hpowders
Aug 09, 2006 (12:31 pm)
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Replying to: oac (Aug 09, 2006 11:46 am)

The 550i is devestating!
 
In this day and age, quality issues with BMWs are more about small annoyances than major engine or electrical failures.
 
I have my 545i for 13 months now with not one complaint.
The car has been flawless. You just bring it in every 15,000 miles for its synthetic oil-which is covered under the 4 year warranty.
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Re: "Lexus winning..... [hpowders] by oac
Aug 09, 2006 (12:33 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 09, 2006 11:50 am)

I'm sending you a Club Europe application form.
 
Nothing wrong with that. I'd gladly accept... I drive my friends 330i every other weekend. The car is a lotta fun. And he has even chirped the heck out of the engine, but you'd never know since from the outside, everything is all stock.
 
I have said it before, and I'll say it again, after my kids leave the nest, I'd consider getting rid of something to get a vert or 2-door sports car, and a 330/335 is certainly a strong contender. But for now, I enjoy my Lexus and look forward to the newer and better models to come. I'm only 43 now, I can imagine that in 20 yrs I'd see myself driving real fast, sporty performance-inclined cars. Why ? I'd like to re-live my lead-footed youth, which I live by till today, and imagine I'd continue to as long as I can move my body and get inside a car without a nurse...
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Re: "Lexus winning..... [oac] by cyclone4
Aug 09, 2006 (12:53 pm)
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Replying to: oac (Aug 09, 2006 11:46 am)

oak,
 
For what it's worth, my dealer told me today that they are of the opinion that a more realistic pricing has the SWB LS460 starting in the mid 60s K. They wholeheartedly agree that the basic LS 460 starting in the 70s K would be totally out of line.
 
By the way, do you have a link to that MT article about the new LS?
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Re: "Lexus winning..... [oac] by hpowders
Aug 09, 2006 (1:00 pm)
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Replying to: oac (Aug 09, 2006 12:33 pm)

Where I live, I am surrounded by retirees who are mostly driving minivans.
Something to do with their lack of flexibility I guess. Easy to get in and out.
Time to hang up the keys, the day I start looking at minivans.
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Mercedes more dependable than Porsche ! by tagman
Aug 09, 2006 (1:45 pm)
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So, the JDP study shows Mercedes Benz, the often accused repair shop lizard, as just a bit below average, which is certainly no nightmare as it is often portrayed.
 
And . . . it is rated better then Porsche and even Hyundai, which have been getting lots of quality kudos lately.
 
Even more interesting is that the average itself has improved to the point that an average vehicle is pretty darned good.
 
Great news for Lexus, of course, but important news for Mercedes, IMO.
 
Always nice to see Jaguar doing well.
 
TagMan
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J D Power by anthonyp
Aug 09, 2006 (2:14 pm)
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Wasn`t that test for three year old cars?? OAC, when I was your age I also went for Lexus as I think from a financial point of view they deliver...I am presently enjoying an Audi, but with the age has come caution, so don`t wait too long Tony
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A tainted test??? by blkhemi
Aug 09, 2006 (2:30 pm)
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I read the bottom portion of the test and have come away mystified:
 
Since when has the Buick Regal, Cadillac Deville(not DTS), and Acura CL come back into production?
 
These tests are almost always so useless. You have a paltry brand like Mercury(Ford) trailing the reliable top-dog Lexus, 3 slots ahead of the perfect Toyota? You can't tell me that you're still believing this crap...
 
Ah, but there is one saving grace. Maybe it's all of the recall that've plagued TOYota as of late.
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Re: Mercedes, omens and Nightmares! [tagman] by stevekilburn
Aug 09, 2006 (3:34 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Aug 09, 2006 1:45 pm)

Nightmare starts after warranty expires, which you failed to admit.
 
Steve
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Re: A tainted test??? [blkhemi] by lexusguy
Aug 09, 2006 (3:40 pm)
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Replying to: blkhemi (Aug 09, 2006 2:30 pm)

Since when has the Buick Regal, Cadillac Deville(not DTS), and Acura CL come back into production?
 
The VDS is probably more important to used shoppers than new car buyers. If you lease for two years, who cares what the VDS results are? If, on the other hand, you're in the market for a just off lease 3 year old car, as a lot of people are, its relevant information. BMW's strong showing probably has something to do with the '03 3 and 5 series, which were both near the end of the line and much more reliable than the earlier MYs.
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Re: A tainted test??? [lexusguy] by stevekilburn
Aug 09, 2006 (3:48 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 09, 2006 3:40 pm)

The VDS is probably more important to used shoppers than new car buyers
  
Its the other way around. Its useful for new car buyers because they can figure out how many times they will visit the dealership during next 3-4 years.
  
Its useless for used car buyers because they want to know VDS of expired warranty cars (5-8 yrs or more) rather than 3 year olds.
  
Steve

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