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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Re: Kumbaya [lexusguy] by dewey
Aug 09, 2006 (11:18 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 09, 2006 11:12 am)

No thanks!
 
I test drove both cars (Legacy GT not Spec B) and believe me they are not at all as exciting to drive as the luxury cars I test drove or own right now.
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Re: "Lexus winning..... [oac] by hpowders
Aug 09, 2006 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: oac (Aug 09, 2006 10:52 am)

At one time Toyota appealed to sport-minded drivers as well as their conservative base.
They were producing fine cars with the Supra and the neat, little Celica.
My heart raced when I first got behind the wheel of a Supra, so many years ago.
 
Why they abandoned this segment, I do not know.
I hear Toyota may be coming out with a new Supra sometime soon.
 
Why Lexus can't produce the 2007 LS with a serious sport package as Toyota does with the Camry SE is beyond me.
 
Perhaps the re-emergence of the Supra indicates a serious change of direction which hopefully, will filter up to Lexus.
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Re: "Lexus winning..... [dewey] by hpowders
Aug 09, 2006 (11:33 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Aug 09, 2006 11:10 am)

Whoa! Oac! Were you seriously considering getting a 550i?
 
It really would be nice to have both the LS and 550i, wouldn't it?
 
One, a great cruiser, the other for those exciting weekend jaunts.
 
Then you would become the HELM board's true moderate!
 
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Re: "Lexus winning..... [hpowders] by oac
Aug 09, 2006 (11:44 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 09, 2006 11:28 am)

At least Toyota offered variation of the same theme to a diverse group of buyers. BMW solely appeals to the so-called "performance-minded" folks. Nothing wrong with that, but don't you see how such a "limited" approach is fraught with risks? If and when Toyota brings back a Supra, it won't radically change Toyota's image in the performance world. They'd need serious contention in F1, Le Mans, and other racing events to really put their name on the map, and feed off that. A new Supra is just a new souped-up sports car. Not gonna take over the world, tho' it would be nice if it does I am hoping Toyota stays to its strength and continue to churn out quality products.
 
Let me say it here: NOTHING beats quality !!! Nothing.
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Re: "Lexus winning..... [hpowders] by oac
Aug 09, 2006 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 09, 2006 11:33 am)

I wish I could afford BOTH... Yes, I was considering a 550i IF the new LS460 is priced outrageously.
 
I got yet another call today from my Lexus dealer. The SWB LS460 loaded is priced at $72K. But he offered me an olive branch... if I want, I could get an '06 LS430 discounted from $64K to $55K + TTL. I said thanks... but no thanks...
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Re: "Lexus winning..... [oac] by hpowders
Aug 09, 2006 (11:48 am)
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Replying to: oac (Aug 09, 2006 11:44 am)

I don't know about that. I will surely test drive a new Supra because of the fond memories I have of the original Supra.
Shouldn't seriously affect Toyota's strength or indicate a 180 degree change in direction.
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Re: "Lexus winning..... [oac] by hpowders
Aug 09, 2006 (11:50 am)
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Replying to: oac (Aug 09, 2006 11:46 am)

I'm sending you a Club Europe application form.
It will be in a plain white envelope with no return address.
Nobody at Lexus has to know!
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Re: "Lexus winning..... [oac] by dewey
Aug 09, 2006 (12:07 pm)
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Replying to: oac (Aug 09, 2006 11:44 am)

Let me say it here: NOTHING beats quality !!! Nothing
 
Based on my own statistical analysis I have concluded with 99.9 % accuracy that there is definitely a inverse relationship between quality and driving excitement
 
Here is my proof:
 
Latest JD Power Dependability Results Rankings
 
1) Lexus
2) Mercury
3) Buick
4) Cadillac
5) Toyota
 
Is it a mere 0.1% coincidence that the manufacturers above do not manufacture exciting cars? I dont think so! In fact a high JD Power ranking is a warning and not a temptation to buy.
 

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