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Sedans High End Luxury Cars
24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM
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Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: dewey (Aug 09, 2006 9:59 am) More rhetoric for you... link title Lexus winning 12-in-a-row car dependability honors.... in a survey of 47,000+ owners. Geez.. what a lame concept ! It surely doesn't drive as well as a BMW, eh ? How dependability doesn't factor into a car ownership beats me.. except for the Germancarfans who seem to live in their cars 
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Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 09, 2006 10:20 am) the most interesting quote about the JD Power findings is the following: The gap in long-term quality between luxury and non-luxury brands has been cut in half during the past four years, according to the J.D. Power and Associates 2006 Vehicle Dependability StudySM (VDS) released today. In other words if long term quality is a top priority, then buying a luxury vehicle makes less sense than four years ago. |
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Replying to: oac (Aug 09, 2006 10:20 am) 
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12-in-a row car dependability honors." After all this time you still don't get it. We at Club Europe couldn't give a hoot at reliability studies or awards for such. Wake us up when any Lexus wins an award for driving excitement. Should be a long sleep. Geesh! Meanwhile, BMW, the Company of Ideas, has won World Car Of The Year, the highest of international honors. Even Suburu won an international award for best engine. Where was Lexus? They don't even have an international presence. Strictly a minor league sham perpetrated by Toyota on those gullible enough not to recognize a re-badged Toyota when they see one.
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Replying to: dewey (Aug 09, 2006 10:27 am) Huh ? OK... Let's put your rhetorical question another way: If owning a car is all you care about, why did you put all that cash into a BMW ? Won't just about any car fit the bill ??? Oh... I see, you do care about something in the car you choose to own, eh ? C'mon, make these rhetorical questions more challenging....
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 09, 2006 10:39 am) Wake us up when any Lexus wins an award for driving excitement. Should be a long sleep. Yes, snooze alright... I take it you do sleep in your Bimmer as well since you love its driving so much... I think its you who just don't get it with a one-track mindset. Is that even healthy ? Part of the problem is you'd trumpet an award for something a Euro car wins but trash any Lexus wins like it doesn't matter in the scheme of car ownership. Maybe you didn't get the memo: not everyone cares about or wants a BMW. And in particular to HELM (keeping it on topic), even fewer people cares about a 7-series, compared to an S or an LS... Even YOU don't care for a 7-series, or do you ? Without the 3-series, where would BMW be today ? Lexus/Toyota has so many winners its incredible for a car company. Why don't YOU wake us up when BMW gets within a 10-mile shouting distance of the size, clout and world domination as Toyota/Lexus ? That'd be like -- NEVER --
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Replying to: oac (Aug 09, 2006 10:41 am) If Subaru WRX sti had more interior space and did not have such an adolescent look and is sold at a lower price in Canada (CDN MSRP is equivalent to 47k US$) then yes I would consider a Subaru. And the above is no rhetoric.
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Replying to: oac (Aug 09, 2006 10:52 am) OAC, are you not the same fellow who recently considered buying a BMW550i over a Lexus LS? Why dont you come out of the closet and confess that you are just another BMW fan like Howard . The only difference between you and Howard is your reluctance in confessing that BMWs are more fun to drive. |
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Replying to: dewey (Aug 09, 2006 11:01 am) Well, there's always the Legacy Spec.B, which looks more grown up and has more space. It doesn't have the STi's power, but a chip could probably fix that. Another option is the Mazdaspeed6, which also has a powerful turbocharged 4, MT, and AWD.
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Replying to: dewey (Aug 09, 2006 11:10 am) And btw, I agree with you that BMW is lots more fun to drive than a Lexs, but it doesn't offer me ALL I want in a car. |
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