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Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
#17728 of 24723 Re: I Will... [hpowders]
by lexusguy
Aug 06, 2006 (9:55 am)
But LG seems to think the new G35 Coupe will be a serious threat to the 335i Coupe in the USA.
Sorry, LG-I just don't see it happening.
Oh no? BMW sold 72 330Cis in July, and 256 325Cis. Infiniti sold 2,090 G35 coupes. Infiniti is no threat, eh? You can whine that the BMW coupe is end-of-life, but so is the G. July 2005 sales for BMW 325Ci, 328. 330i, 220. July 2005 Infiniti G35 coupe sales, 2,515.
At least in the US, Infiniti has hurt BMW rather badly in the sales department, wouldnt you say Tag?
#17729 of 24723 Re: I Will... [lexusguy]
by hpowders
Aug 06, 2006 (10:42 am)
We'll just have to wait for the numbers.
A twin-turbo 335i coupe sounds rather irresistible, don't you think?
#17730 of 24723 Re: I Will... [lexusguy]
by tagman
Aug 06, 2006 (12:10 pm)
At least in the US, Infiniti has hurt BMW rather badly in the sales department, wouldnt you say Tag?
Refer to my brief post 17666.
TagMan
#17731 of 24723 Re: I Will... [hpowders]
by lexusguy
Aug 06, 2006 (12:24 pm)
A twin-turbo 335i coupe sounds rather irresistible, don't you think?
It does sound like a great car, don't get me wrong. I just dont think it will be outselling the G35. Infiniti sells almost as many coupes as sedans. The 3 series may be the benchmark, but the segment is ruled by the TL and G in terms of sales numbers.
The new turbo engine will help them to at least match if not outrun the new G and the IS350, but I hope they are able to keep that signature BMW turbine smooth power delivery. I've driven plenty of turbo\AT cars, and most of the time I haven't been impressed. In the Subaru Legacy 2.5GT for example, the autobox feels dim-witted and clumsy, and there's basically a choice of not enough power, or too much.
#17732 of 24723 Re: I Will... [lexusguy]
by hpowders
Aug 06, 2006 (12:42 pm)
No leasing deals from BMWFS on this one.
Historically, BMW coupes have been assigned lower residuals and higher money factors than their corresponding sedans.
Curses!
#17733 of 24723 Re: I Will... [hpowders]
by tagman
Aug 06, 2006 (1:30 pm)
No leasing deals from BMWFS on this one.
Historically, BMW coupes have been assigned lower residuals and higher money factors than their corresponding sedans.
Curses!
When you say "Curses" are you suggesting that it would make a personal difference to you regarding a genuine buying decision? Or are you just blowin some air?
TagMan
#17734 of 24723 Re: I Will... [tagman]
by hpowders
Aug 06, 2006 (1:40 pm)
Well if I drive one and I go nuts about it, and if my dealer knows someone who wants a 2005 545 in immaculate condition with low miles, it could happen. Probably not likely though, which in that case puts your second question in play as operationally correct. Heh! Heh!
Well, it's off to see Taylor Hicks and the other Idols live.
I'll bring my ear-plugs!
#17735 of 24723 I keep wondering
by pat
Aug 06, 2006 (1:56 pm)
Is this discussion about high end marques??
Why do we keep dragging all of these clearly no-where-NEAR-high-end marques into this conversation??
#17736 of 24723 Re: I Will... [blkhemi]
by brightness04
Aug 06, 2006 (2:20 pm)
IMHO, you are setting yourself for disappointment. Physics is physics . . . Porsche promised sportscar handling for Toureg (eh, Cayenne), but unless we are talking about decades old sports cars . . . likewise, turbo spindle has mass and moment of inertia . . . all that twisting of vanes will be in vain.
Aug 06, 2006 (2:22 pm)
Exciting you getting the Lotus....I bet you fit like a foot in a shoe, but that gives the support..Did you get it at the `Collection`? tony