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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#17548 of 24723 Re: BMW Misguided Approach [merc1] by lexusguy

Aug 03, 2006 (5:06 am)

Replying to: merc1 (Aug 03, 2006 2:57 am)
I really think AMG has turned a corner literally because Auto Zeitung got the facelifted SL55 AMG around the track faster (by 1.6 secs) than the BMW M6. This caused quite an uproar on some of the other boards I frequent. Auto, Motor und Sport also recently put the E63 AMG over the M5.
 
I like how the AMGs are relatively simple machines, stomp on the pedal and they go. With the M5, theres 800 transmission and suspension settings, and a million other things to fiddle with. Ferrari's system that incorporates all of those functions into one switch on the steering wheel makes a lot more sense.
 
Somewhat off-topic, but I'm reading the various reviews of the Saleen S7 Turbo like in the Sept issue of Road and Track. Out of all the sports cars they tested in that issue with all their outstanding performance numbers the Saleen blows them away. I mean a 10.6 1/4 mile 140 mph is just sick! What do you think about the Saleen S7 Turbo?
 
I'd rather have a Zonda F. Not quite as fast, perhaps, but the inside of the Saleen is just a track day car with a radio in it, nothing more. Certainly nothing to indicate how much money it costs. The inside of the Zonda, on the other hand, WOW!
 
http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-2005/2005-Pagani-Zonda-F-n-Interior-1280x960.j- - pg

#17549 of 24723 Re: BMW Misguided Approach [lexusguy] by merc1

Aug 03, 2006 (5:12 am)

Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 03, 2006 5:06 am)
I'd rather have a Zonda F. Not quite as fast, perhaps, but the inside of the Saleen is just a track day car with a radio in it, nothing more. Certainly nothing to indicate how much money it costs. The inside of the Zonda, on the other hand, WOW!
 
Well yes of course you'd know I'd have a Zonda too considering the connection with Mercees-Benz. I don't think the fact that the Saleen is bascially a street version of their race car hurts anything, that is what bascially made Ferrari such an icon. We're getting the Zonda in 2008 I believe.
 
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#17551 of 24723 Re: BMW Misguided Approach [merc1] by brightness04

Aug 03, 2006 (5:47 am)

Replying to: merc1 (Aug 03, 2006 5:12 am)
It goes to show that as sales volume expectation is lowered, price and luxury decouple from each other rapidly. If I don't expect much sales, I can ask $100k for a matchbox car . . . that does not mean the $100k MSRP has anything to do with how much the car is worth.

#17552 of 24723 Re: BMW Misguided Approach [merc1] by hpowders

Aug 03, 2006 (5:48 am)

Replying to: merc1 (Aug 02, 2006 10:29 pm)
As long as the big 3 are Audi, MB and BMW, I am happy.
Doesn't really matter, the order.

#17554 of 24723 Re: Ridiculous! [brightness04] by hpowders

Aug 03, 2006 (5:53 am)

As long as BMW, Audi and MB are the top 3, I am extremely happy!

#17556 of 24723 Re: BMW Misguided Approach [tagman] by dewey

Aug 03, 2006 (6:11 am)

Replying to: tagman (Aug 02, 2006 8:56 am)
I remember referring to Lexus as "snipers with powerful scopes that had BMW in their crosshairs". Few agreed with me, and I was the lonely poster for the most part on this point of view, but I still maintain my position.
 
Tagman,
 
I think MB has more to fear from Lexus than any other German marque. You may be correct about Lexus being a future threat to BMW but that threat certainly does not exist with their current product-line.
 
As mentioned by somebody else in this forum Audi is BMW's biggest threat right now!

#17557 of 24723 Merc by drfill

Aug 03, 2006 (6:13 am)

Wasn't counting the R or GL class, as they are brand new.
 
   The ML and G are down.
  
   DrFill

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