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24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM
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Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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To LI Gold Coast for 4 days. Saw three LS 400's all in pristine condition too! Nice to see some pride of ownership. Apparently a great investment for those folks. Haven't seen any in Florida. Saw my share of gorgeous 911's too. One in particular-a spanking new Carrera convertible in an ivory white which was really the cat's meow! Hey Oac-sometimes one's prayers do get answered!  Also, I really should re-think the term "moderate." Tagman has definite Team Europe leanings. You were away so long, I guess I forgot! No offense meant! Mea culpa!  Very much enjoyed the well-done description of what makes Team Europe tick. Pure poetry. So artfully constructed by Blkhemi. After reading that, how can anybody not be intoxicated with BMW, Audi or MB? Certain aspects of human behavior are just a little beyond my powers of comprehension, I guess. Some of you folks should really take one of their fine vehicles out for a spin. Go ahead. Have some fun! You may never look back. I agree with Tagman-that photo of an apparent BMW was quite barfable. Lexusguy: You wounded me! 
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Replying to: hpowders (Jul 31, 2006 1:23 pm) The Carrera was nice, huh? White w/ a light interior I imagine. Sincerely, ModerateMan
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Replying to: tagman (Jul 31, 2006 2:19 pm)  Yes-it was a stunning vehicle. |
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Replying to: dewey (Jul 31, 2006 6:46 am)
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Replying to: brightness04 (Jul 31, 2006 4:57 pm) Thanks! |
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Replying to: dewey (Jul 31, 2006 5:29 pm) Thanks for the contribution Dewey, and BTW, your disclaimer in the last paragraph of post 17372 was MORE than adequate. TagMan
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Replying to: tagman (Jul 31, 2006 8:13 pm) CEOs driving $25K cars in America, the land of corporate greed, and capitalism run amock, and you defend the person who posted such drivel !!! Let me ask you, do YOU know of a company CEO who drives a $25K car to work daily ? I am not talking of self-styled CEO gardeners, plumbers, electricians, and others like these (aka: small business owners) who drive beat up cars that would qualify for this survey... Talking of CEOs, my former CEO drives around in an XJR, while his SVP chooses b/w a Porsche and a Bimmer-5 for his daily ride. My neighbor, not a CEO, has 5 cars on his drive way, for a 2-person household (kids older and out of the nest). None of his cars are under $30K. And next to him is another with a jacked-up F250, and a lovely mustard-yellow Boxter. $25K car ? Puleaze !!! May I remind you what CEOs make in this country relative to the average employee ? Try more than 250-times see link title, and you'd expect to see these $Gadzillion-aires riding around in Kia/Hyundai/Corolla/Civics.... BTW, what would $25K buy you these days for a brand new car ? There, I rest my case !
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jul 31, 2006 6:08 am) Well said, LG. Isn't it simply funny to read of examples of less than stellar LS430s and the Germancarfans conclude LS must be unreliable ! Its called statistics, guys.... I didn't hear anyone grumble about my 8yo LS400 with 114K miles and narry a problem. Does that not qualify as a statistical sample ? And BlkHemi's very reliable MBs and Audis are statistically outside the realm... since he typically doesn't keep them long enough to break down much. At 10K miles, any car that doesn't hold up - be it $10K or $200K - is pure lemon ! Try 100K miles and then tell us how many cars you owned remained relatively trouble-free, then we got real statistics.
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Replying to: dewey (Jul 31, 2006 5:29 pm) How does this in any way or shape relate to the likelihood of a buyer of Lexus LS600HL would consider a Prius as replacement? Your own data purported to establish that CEO's and luxury car buyers are _not_ correlated. So why bother bringing self-claimed CEO's in here at all? regardless bona fides or fraudsters or just someone eeking out a living like most of us? LS, S and 7 make up for less than 2% of the car market, that factoid does not however suggest that a current owner of LS, S or 7 would have 98% chance of buying an Accord/Camry or something like that as replacement; CEO or not is quite irrelevent.
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Replying to: drfill (Jul 31, 2006 3:53 am) Nah it doesn't because sales and more sales is part of the Lexus mantra and the IS300 never sold well relative to its competitors and it was a total outcast among traditional Lexus buyers. The car was a Toyota in drag, nothing more. You're still using sales one minute (SC430) to defend a comparo laggard, but you'll use comparos the next (IS300) to defend a sales laggard. Sales and more sales are what Lexus fans harp about more than anything else so if doesn't at least sell decently it ain't worth mentioning in Lexusland. YES, I SAID IT! The S-Class will not sell 3k a month in 2007. It'll fall to 1500-2000 a month when the new LS changes the market direction this October. Oh I don't doubt this at all, I wouldn't say 1500 units, but 2K yes. There are only so many buyers for a car that starts at 90K. Now MB will at least attempt to counter with the low-priced S450 at some point. There WILL be plenty of buyers who would rather pay $900-1000 a month for an LS, than $13-1400 a month for an S550. And there are plenty who can't (or won't) make that jump either which is what the LS depends on for a great many of it's sales, a cheaper price! M |
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