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24697 messages,  Last post on Nov 28, 2009 at 3:09 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Re: I Read..... [dewey] by syswei
Jul 31, 2006 (7:51 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Jul 31, 2006 6:46 am)

My suspicion is that the "CEOs" in the survey might include the "CEOs"/owners of some very small businesses, i.e., drycleaning stores, etc.
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Re: Least Reliable luxury [lexusguy] by dewey
Jul 31, 2006 (8:00 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jul 31, 2006 7:49 am)

Great link. A lot of data for a free site.
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Re: I Read..... [syswei] by dewey
Jul 31, 2006 (8:13 am)
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Replying to: syswei (Jul 31, 2006 7:51 am)

The survey must be based on the existing clients of CareerBuilding.com. I highly doubt such clients would include a CEO of one drycleaning stand or a CEO of one corner store.
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Re: I Read..... [dewey] by ljflx
Jul 31, 2006 (8:20 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Jul 31, 2006 6:46 am)

Dewey,
 
How about the fact that they are leased by the company and driven by (or chafeurred for) the CEO's. Find me that stat. You think that is 25%??? Do you really think a CEO drives to (or is driven to) his $2-$20mln+ house in a Corolla like car?? It's easy to say you don't own a helm if it's a company car. It's the technically accurate answer and the morally inaccurate answer.
 
Merc - I was really thinking the market share issue in the last 5 years. The post I was responding to used a 10 year time period.
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Re: I Read..... [dewey] by syswei
Jul 31, 2006 (8:31 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Jul 31, 2006 8:13 am)

Check this:
 
Methodology
Harris Interactive® conducted the online study between June 21 and June 23, 2006 among a nationwide sample of 2,344 U.S. adults (aged 21 to 65) who have a valid driver’s license and are employed or looking for work. Of the 2,344 qualified respondents who completed the survey, 340 respondents qualified as a CEO, Chairman, Executive Director, President or COO of the company in which they are employed. The other 2,004 respondents are categorized as the general public segment. No weighting was applied to this data and therefore the results cannot be projected to the U.S. adult or CEO populations.
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Ask yourself this: When 15% of a "nationwide sample of U.S. adults" qualifies as "CEO, Chairman, Executive Director, President or COO", what size companies do you think we are talking about, on average, and what average compensation for the "CEO"?
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Re: I Read..... [syswei] by dewey
Jul 31, 2006 (8:51 am)
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Replying to: syswei (Jul 31, 2006 8:31 am)

Ask yourself this: When 15% of a "nationwide sample of U.S. adults" qualifies as "CEO, Chairman, Executive Director, President or COO", what size companies do you think we are talking about, on average, and what average compensation for the "CEO"?
 
I dont want to dwell on this too long. If this was a random sample then I agree. This apparently is not a random sample and is based on surveying clients and employment seekers in the businessworld. Executive Search is a big part of many employment agencies and may include a larger number of senior executives than what you would find in the general population.
 
LJ the cars primarily driven by CEOs is on average a 25K$ car. This is not about leasing or owning.
 
Although I must confess that I do find the results of this survey quite surprising and maybe even somewhat dubious myself. Eighty one percent of CEOs driving Impalas, Accords, Camrys, Windstars and Siennas? While only 19 percent of Corporate CEO parking places are occupied by a luxury car. Highly unlikely indeed.
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Re: I Read..... [dewey] by ljflx
Jul 31, 2006 (9:48 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Jul 31, 2006 8:51 am)

Hey anyone out of work can create a consulting business and call himself President. My lawnmowers card says he's the president of his business.
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Re: I Read..... [dewey] by tagman
Jul 31, 2006 (9:55 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Jul 31, 2006 8:51 am)

Dewey,
 
Terrific data, but with gaping holes. Stimulating topic, I might add.
 
So . . . which is it? . . . to motivate our children to strive to be:
    a) sports superstar
    b) hollywood actor
    c) CEO
    d) none of the above!
 
Thanks again Dewey.
 
TagMan
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Went Up North.... by hpowders
Jul 31, 2006 (1:23 pm)
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To LI Gold Coast for 4 days.
Saw three LS 400's all in pristine condition too!
Nice to see some pride of ownership.
Apparently a great investment for those folks.
Haven't seen any in Florida.
Saw my share of gorgeous 911's too. One in particular-a spanking new Carrera convertible in an ivory white which was really the cat's meow!
 
Hey Oac-sometimes one's prayers do get answered!
    
Also, I really should re-think the term "moderate." Tagman has definite Team Europe leanings. You were away so long, I guess I forgot! No offense meant! Mea culpa!
 
Very much enjoyed the well-done description of what makes Team Europe tick.
Pure poetry. So artfully constructed by Blkhemi.
After reading that, how can anybody not be intoxicated with BMW, Audi or MB? Certain aspects of human behavior are just a little beyond my powers of comprehension, I guess.
Some of you folks should really take one of their fine vehicles out for a spin.
Go ahead. Have some fun! You may never look back.
 
I agree with Tagman-that photo of an apparent BMW was quite barfable.
 
Lexusguy: You wounded me!

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