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24699 messages,  Last post on Nov 30, 2009 at 6:41 PM

You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens

What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Merc by drfill
Jul 31, 2006 (3:53 am)
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Sorry about my indiscretion. The E350 was there.
  
    Regarding the IS300, my point was to show that it was not Roadkill, as Team Europe likes to put over on these airwaves. The fact that it was a couple of points behind the vaunted 328i shows it had great driving dynamics, and deserves respect.
 
    I know you want to run out and buy a GS460 this fall, but let's start cutting the S-Class sales in half with a new LS before we get you your GS460 next Summer, K?
 
    YES, I SAID IT! The S-Class will not sell 3k a month in 2007. It'll fall to 1500-2000 a month when the new LS changes the market direction this October.
 
    There WILL be plenty of buyers who would rather pay $900-1000 a month for an LS, than $13-1400 a month for an S550.
 
    DrFill
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Everybody by drfill
Jul 31, 2006 (4:00 am)
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   I guess this was missed in my previous posts, so it bears repeating:
  
   Lexus could become Ford or VW for a year, and still be Quality Standard.
 
   With Lexus sales up 10% a year, for the last deacde or so, I'd say these are exceptions, not the rule.
 
   I thank NV and SV for their testimonials, but at the same point, neither will say they regret buying the LS, and they haven't beat a path to the trade-in lot either.
  
   Lexus is not perfect. Just closer than the competition, that's all. The Pursuit continues!
 
   DrFill
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Re: Everybody [drfill] by lexusguy
Jul 31, 2006 (6:08 am)
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Replying to: drfill (Jul 31, 2006 4:00 am)

Lexus is not perfect. Just closer than the competition, that's all. The Pursuit continues!
 
Until Lexus turns in JD scores of 0 PP 100, there will be the unlucky few with problems. That said, I've never heard of an SC430 with a broken top, and Ive never seen an LS being taken away on a flat bed. SL, S, care to comment? Didnt think so.
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Re: I Read..... [ljflx] by dewey
Jul 31, 2006 (6:46 am)
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Replying to: ljflx (Jul 21, 2006 5:44 pm)

how'd you like to set up a concession stand and make a business for the group of people (I'm guessing the count will be zero, maybe one person if I really stretch my imagination) that will exit the 2008 LS600HL line and enter the 2009 Prius line. Just don't expect any bank to loan you the money to start a business where no one will line up.
 
It is not my habit to respond to such an ancient and dated post as above. But it just turns out that your above assertions are not witty at all but are actually quite serious. Your business proposal above sounds quite opportunistic based on the stats below:
 
1)Only 19 % of CEOs in USA own a luxury car
2)The Average Price in US$ of the Primary Vehicle driven by a CEO in the USA is $25,000.

SOURCE: Cars.com and CareerBuilder.com
 
Based on the stats above I would not be surprised at all if a CEO during 2008 trades in his hybrid Lexus for a significantly improved Prius.
 
I hope you dont mind if I steal your business idea (I have no intention of sharing my profits with you)? I will be starting my concession stand during 2008
 
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Least Reliable luxury by dewey
Jul 31, 2006 (7:03 am)
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I already posted this in the LPS forum but I thought this may be of some interest to some of you who are obsessed with reliability:
 
Here is a list of the least reliable luxury autos ?(there are no MBs, BMWs, Audis or Porsches on the list)
  
 link title
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Re: Least Reliable luxury [dewey] by lexusguy
Jul 31, 2006 (7:49 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Jul 31, 2006 7:03 am)

Here is a list of the least reliable luxury autos ?(there are no MBs, BMWs, Audis or Porsches on the list)
 
Here's a more world reliability view. Good results for Porsche, Jag, and BMW, and pretty good for Audi. Still very poor for Mercedes. Only the French cars and Fiat were worse. The M class came in an amazing 155th of 159 models.
 
http://www.topgear.com/content/features/stories/2005/11/stories/01/3.html
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Re: I Read..... [dewey] by syswei
Jul 31, 2006 (7:51 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Jul 31, 2006 6:46 am)

My suspicion is that the "CEOs" in the survey might include the "CEOs"/owners of some very small businesses, i.e., drycleaning stores, etc.
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Re: Least Reliable luxury [lexusguy] by dewey
Jul 31, 2006 (8:00 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jul 31, 2006 7:49 am)

Great link. A lot of data for a free site.
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Re: I Read..... [syswei] by dewey
Jul 31, 2006 (8:13 am)
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Replying to: syswei (Jul 31, 2006 7:51 am)

The survey must be based on the existing clients of CareerBuilding.com. I highly doubt such clients would include a CEO of one drycleaning stand or a CEO of one corner store.

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