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24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM
You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: tagman (Jul 30, 2006 9:48 pm) The part that gets me about the whole Maybach thing was that some at MB felt that "Mercedes-Benz" wasn't prestigious enough to compete with "Bentley" and "Rolls-Royce" anymore, but yet they elected to slap the "Mercedes-Benz" badge on the A-Class and B-Class vehicles, which do nothing positive image-wise for Mercedes. Someone at MB forgot that Mercedes-Benz back in the day had no trouble competing and in many cases surpassing the best Rolls and Bentley had to offer. M |
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"According to Auto Motor und Sport, the new Maybach 51 (with the model number indicating its 5.1 meter length) will not grace the marketplace before the 2009-2010 timeframe. The 51 is said to be targeted at a price point north of $250,000 at current exchange rates, positioning it against the Bentley Continental Flying Spur and the upcoming small Rolls-Royce. The magazine reports that the mini Maybach will be based on the Mercedes-Benz S-class platform, giving it access to a choice of V8 and V12 powerplants. Both sedan and coupe versions are planned."
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jul 30, 2006 10:13 pm) M |
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Sorry about my indiscretion. The E350 was there. Regarding the IS300, my point was to show that it was not Roadkill, as Team Europe likes to put over on these airwaves. The fact that it was a couple of points behind the vaunted 328i shows it had great driving dynamics, and deserves respect. I know you want to run out and buy a GS460 this fall, but let's start cutting the S-Class sales in half with a new LS before we get you your GS460 next Summer, K? YES, I SAID IT! The S-Class will not sell 3k a month in 2007. It'll fall to 1500-2000 a month when the new LS changes the market direction this October. There WILL be plenty of buyers who would rather pay $900-1000 a month for an LS, than $13-1400 a month for an S550. DrFill
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I guess this was missed in my previous posts, so it bears repeating: Lexus could become Ford or VW for a year, and still be Quality Standard. With Lexus sales up 10% a year, for the last deacde or so, I'd say these are exceptions, not the rule. I thank NV and SV for their testimonials, but at the same point, neither will say they regret buying the LS, and they haven't beat a path to the trade-in lot either. Lexus is not perfect. Just closer than the competition, that's all. The Pursuit continues!  DrFill
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Replying to: drfill (Jul 31, 2006 4:00 am) Until Lexus turns in JD scores of 0 PP 100, there will be the unlucky few with problems. That said, I've never heard of an SC430 with a broken top, and Ive never seen an LS being taken away on a flat bed. SL, S, care to comment? Didnt think so.
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Replying to: ljflx (Jul 21, 2006 5:44 pm) It is not my habit to respond to such an ancient and dated post as above. But it just turns out that your above assertions are not witty at all but are actually quite serious. Your business proposal above sounds quite opportunistic based on the stats below: 1)Only 19 % of CEOs in USA own a luxury car 2)The Average Price in US$ of the Primary Vehicle driven by a CEO in the USA is $25,000. SOURCE: Cars.com and CareerBuilder.com Based on the stats above I would not be surprised at all if a CEO during 2008 trades in his hybrid Lexus for a significantly improved Prius. I hope you dont mind if I steal your business idea (I have no intention of sharing my profits with you)? I will be starting my concession stand during 2008
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I already posted this in the LPS forum but I thought this may be of some interest to some of you who are obsessed with reliability: Here is a list of the least reliable luxury autos ?(there are no MBs, BMWs, Audis or Porsches on the list) link title
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Replying to: dewey (Jul 31, 2006 7:03 am) Here's a more world reliability view. Good results for Porsche, Jag, and BMW, and pretty good for Audi. Still very poor for Mercedes. Only the French cars and Fiat were worse. The M class came in an amazing 155th of 159 models. http://www.topgear.com/content/features/stories/2005/11/stories/01/3.html
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Replying to: dewey (Jul 31, 2006 6:46 am)
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