High End Luxury Cars

24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#17332 of 24700 Re: Tagman, Hemi [drfill] by tagman Jul 30, 2006 (1:34 pm)
Replying to: drfill (Jul 30, 2006 1:27 pm) I can't understand you when you're mumbling . . . and rambling. I think you should refer to Sam's posts which compare and contrast the Mercedes and Lexus vehicles in one of the most balanced presentations we have seen. You continue to put the Lexus on a pedestal, don't you? Be careful, second commandment is - "You shall have no other Gods before me." TagMan
#17333 of 24700 Oh.... by drfill Jul 30, 2006 (1:37 pm)
Just writing so you can understand, T. Did I go too fast for ya? DrFill Replies to this message: tagman (Jul 30, 2006 1:41 pm)
#17334 of 24700 Re: Oh.... [drfill] by tagman Jul 30, 2006 (1:41 pm)
Replying to: drfill (Jul 30, 2006 1:37 pm) Did I go too fast for ya? No chance . . . you'll never be going too fast in your Lexus, Doc. TM
#17335 of 24700 C'Mon Doc by blkhemi Jul 30, 2006 (2:01 pm)
No one said anything about the abolishment or demise of Lexus. Lexus is here to stay and we all know this. Re-read the post and you'll understand that all was said was that Lexus is not immune from deficiency. You can't make this into one of your Team Lexus shouting matches. Talking about something that should've never came across the Pacific, the laughable ES250(circa 1990) and the previous-gen IS300 was an inert attempt by Lexus to encroach on the market by offering mal-performing cars at cheap prices. Witness the GS, a car that went from '98 to '04 without a single major update(besides a upgrade from 400 GS430). The new GS needs: A new engine, a touter suspension, and styling revisions already? This from the makers of PERFECTION? Paaleeeesssseeeee. Appalling to say the least. Lexus even admits that it had to do this in order to stay competitive(or lack thereof) with the E/5/A6. Still, if it had to be Japanese, the M35/45 walks on it all day long... Replies to this message: brightness04 (Jul 30, 2006 3:27 pm)
#17336 of 24700 Tag by drfill Jul 30, 2006 (2:32 pm)
Ask a BMW 330i owner trying to chase down an IS350 DrFill Replies to this message: blkhemi (Jul 30, 2006 6:31 pm)
#17337 of 24700 Hemi by drfill Jul 30, 2006 (2:40 pm)
Regarding your post, you back this Pit into a corner, he gonna bite! Had enough of your commentary recently. C&D said last year that the GS430 is better than an E500 and 528! And the last IS did very well, behind only the G35 and 328i in "11 Sports Sedans" back in 2002. With a VDIM-off switch, new for '07, and a Manual tranny, the IS350 it is better than a 330i. The M45 can be a great driver, but the GS is easily better-looking. Inside and out. And with 303HP, the GS350 will go forward and multiply! DrFill Replies to this message: blkhemi (Jul 30, 2006 6:38 pm) merc1 (Jul 30, 2006 9:22 pm)
#17338 of 24700 Re: The virtue of Germanic cars! [dewey] by brightness04 Jul 30, 2006 (3:25 pm)
Replying to: dewey (Jul 29, 2006 7:06 am) If "form follows fuction" is the basic tenet of German car design, doesn't that entirely debunk early assertions that others copy German stylistic elements? After all, these stylicstic elements are nothing more than what naturally flows from the function of a car, right? Replies to this message: dewey (Jul 30, 2006 7:50 pm)
#17339 of 24700 Re: C'Mon Doc [blkhemi] by brightness04 Jul 30, 2006 (3:27 pm)
Replying to: blkhemi (Jul 30, 2006 2:01 pm) Talking about something that should've never came across the Pacific, the laughable ES250 Even that supposed subject of derision was better than its primary competition: 318i/318ic/318ti/190e, etc..
#17340 of 24700 Re: Tagman, Hemi [drfill] by nvbanker Jul 30, 2006 (4:25 pm)
Replying to: drfill (Jul 30, 2006 1:27 pm) You know, I bought my LS430, because I wanted to experience the whole Lexus thing - the "Passionate Pursuit of Perfection", bullet proof reliability, amazing performance. To be fair, I'm disappointed. Here's why; PERFECTION: It isn't. I've had Lexus Link failures twice now, and the universal joint knuckle in the telescoping steering wheel had to be replaced. Not horrible, to be sure, but honestly, I've had Lincolns that gave me less trouble than this in 2 years of ownership. PERFORMANCE: Uh....it's alright, but it could use more low end power for sure. You kind of have to kick it around the city to stay up with traffic. Or get a wheelchair sign for the mirror or something. DESIGN: The seat is clearly the WORST design I've ever sat my fat American ass in. It's as flat as a board (the seat that is), no lateral bolster support at all. It's hard, and it's hard to get it comfortable. The car is short on legroom for Americans too, if you give yourself enough legroom, you're reaching for the Steering Wheel, even adjusted all the way out. The interior design is bordering on elegant, but not attractive by any means, and the outside says "my last car was a Grand Marquis", it's so old fashioned. I hope some of these issues are addressed in the next line. The outside looks much better, hope the inside is too. I don't mind a couple of repairs now and then, but if she becomes a hanger queen, she's out of here. May as well get a Jag and enjoy the style, if I have to fix it. Replies to this message: blkhemi (Jul 30, 2006 6:43 pm) sv7887 (Jul 30, 2006 7:14 pm)
#17341 of 24700 Re: Tag [drfill] by blkhemi Jul 30, 2006 (6:31 pm)
Replying to: drfill (Jul 30, 2006 2:32 pm) A IS350 and a G35 both are faster in a straight line, but neither has the legs of the 330i and they both will be completely left in the twisties and braking, where it really counts. Traffic light races are not all what these cars are about, and conversely, the 330i remains the champ. BTW: That acceleration run that Lexus has over the 330 will be brief as the 330i will receive the 330iC's 310hp I-6 for '07. I hope that manual tranny is a good one that Lexus has found....