High End Luxury Cars

24698 messages, Last post on Nov 30, 2009 at 1:20 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#17328 of 24698 Re: Forget about the '06 Senate races: [tagman] by blkhemi Jul 30, 2006 (10:03 am)
Replying to: tagman (Jul 30, 2006 8:24 am) Great question. Maybe Team Lexus can elaborate in our inevitable debate before the day is over. Replies to this message: tagman (Jul 30, 2006 10:06 am)
#17329 of 24698 Re: Forget about the '06 Senate races: [blkhemi] by tagman Jul 30, 2006 (10:06 am)
Replying to: blkhemi (Jul 30, 2006 10:03 am) We'll see. TM
#17330 of 24698 Re: Forget about the '06 Senate races: [blkhemi] by atlas7 Jul 30, 2006 (12:30 pm)
Replying to: blkhemi (Jul 30, 2006 7:38 am) Why all the venom? All of these cars are pretty sweet, they are all good cars. There is no one best car. I have never driven any of these cars, but I will buy one before '06 is out. Will drive S550, 750, and the LS460. I am sure I could live with any of them. I am sure I will have preferences one way or another, but that doesn't mean the cars that I don't choose, suck. Live and let live!
#17331 of 24698 Tagman, Hemi by drfill Jul 30, 2006 (1:27 pm)
I have not been briefed on these "Reliability issues" of which you speak, but Lexus could become Ford or VW for a year, and still be Quality Standard. Lexus has earned more than any benefit of the doubt. The problem with being Team Lexus/Toyota is that you've been whipping the Germans and the Americans in quality and value for so many years, it's like being the New England Patriots. You mean the same team can't win the Super Bowl ever year, indefinitely? This must be the Seventh Sign of the Apocolypse! Truly victims of their own success. Too good for their own good. If they have a hangnail, it's an International Media Event! It would be like me sayin' when the C230 hatch was sent here (before being mercifully banished), and the ML was best seen on Tow trucks and Wreckers nationwide, that Mercedes was having "Prestige Issues", because they were pandering for cheap sales on one hand, and building junk on the other. Nothing prestigious about 4-cylinder hatch. Nothing prestigious about a minivan that can't stay on the road. But Mercedes will always be Mercedes. Everyone knows Lexus' place in the market, an ideal blend of Quality/Lux/Value, and everyone else is sucking wind to keep up. Mercedes is Lux/Prestige. BMW is Sporting Lux. This is what is called "Common Knowledge". It seems that memo just hasn't reached all "Constituents" yet...... Keep me posted on the Demise of Lexus, doh. I could use a good laugh now and again. DrFill Replies to this message: tagman (Jul 30, 2006 1:34 pm) nvbanker (Jul 30, 2006 4:25 pm) blkhemi (Jul 30, 2006 6:43 pm) sv7887 (Jul 30, 2006 7:14 pm)
#17332 of 24698 Re: Tagman, Hemi [drfill] by tagman Jul 30, 2006 (1:34 pm)
Replying to: drfill (Jul 30, 2006 1:27 pm) I can't understand you when you're mumbling . . . and rambling. I think you should refer to Sam's posts which compare and contrast the Mercedes and Lexus vehicles in one of the most balanced presentations we have seen. You continue to put the Lexus on a pedestal, don't you? Be careful, second commandment is - "You shall have no other Gods before me." TagMan
#17333 of 24698 Oh.... by drfill Jul 30, 2006 (1:37 pm)
Just writing so you can understand, T. Did I go too fast for ya? DrFill Replies to this message: tagman (Jul 30, 2006 1:41 pm)
#17334 of 24698 Re: Oh.... [drfill] by tagman Jul 30, 2006 (1:41 pm)
Replying to: drfill (Jul 30, 2006 1:37 pm) Did I go too fast for ya? No chance . . . you'll never be going too fast in your Lexus, Doc. TM
#17335 of 24698 C'Mon Doc by blkhemi Jul 30, 2006 (2:01 pm)
No one said anything about the abolishment or demise of Lexus. Lexus is here to stay and we all know this. Re-read the post and you'll understand that all was said was that Lexus is not immune from deficiency. You can't make this into one of your Team Lexus shouting matches. Talking about something that should've never came across the Pacific, the laughable ES250(circa 1990) and the previous-gen IS300 was an inert attempt by Lexus to encroach on the market by offering mal-performing cars at cheap prices. Witness the GS, a car that went from '98 to '04 without a single major update(besides a upgrade from 400 GS430). The new GS needs: A new engine, a touter suspension, and styling revisions already? This from the makers of PERFECTION? Paaleeeesssseeeee. Appalling to say the least. Lexus even admits that it had to do this in order to stay competitive(or lack thereof) with the E/5/A6. Still, if it had to be Japanese, the M35/45 walks on it all day long... Replies to this message: brightness04 (Jul 30, 2006 3:27 pm)
#17336 of 24698 Tag by drfill Jul 30, 2006 (2:32 pm)
Ask a BMW 330i owner trying to chase down an IS350 DrFill Replies to this message: blkhemi (Jul 30, 2006 6:31 pm)
#17337 of 24698 Hemi by drfill Jul 30, 2006 (2:40 pm)
Regarding your post, you back this Pit into a corner, he gonna bite! Had enough of your commentary recently. C&D said last year that the GS430 is better than an E500 and 528! And the last IS did very well, behind only the G35 and 328i in "11 Sports Sedans" back in 2002. With a VDIM-off switch, new for '07, and a Manual tranny, the IS350 it is better than a 330i. The M45 can be a great driver, but the GS is easily better-looking. Inside and out. And with 303HP, the GS350 will go forward and multiply! DrFill Replies to this message: blkhemi (Jul 30, 2006 6:38 pm) merc1 (Jul 30, 2006 9:22 pm)