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Sedans High End Luxury Cars
24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM
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Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: cyclone4 (Jul 28, 2006 11:41 am) Well, I wouldn't expect huge changes by 2008. A totally redesigned RX hybrid will probably hit around '10-11.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jul 28, 2006 3:35 pm)
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Replying to: oac (Jul 28, 2006 10:39 am) It seems to me that the whole key to driving a HELM is if you do it with pre-tax money (i.e., through your LLC, etc.) or post tax money. If you're not "running it through the company" as they say, I doubt that on 200K you're going to be driving an S Class. YMMV
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Replying to: oac (Jul 28, 2006 10:39 am) You guys brought up the resale value. Good luck finding a post where someone bought the LS because of future resale value. The resale value being high is the icing on the cake assuming you are selling in a relatively short time. The LS buyers on this board are holding their cars for 7 to as much as 16 years so resale at that lonngevity of ownership is almost irrelevant. If you're holding only 3-4 years and didn't lease than the higher than forecasted resale value is dessert, not the meal, and certainly not the cause of purchase. I look to resale for a different reason. It bothers me that Lexus underestimates the value of their 3 year old cars in lease deals. It means you are paying for depreciation that isn't happening. I also look to resale for future list prices. If a car is not holding up on reasle than the MSRP won't hold up either. You should lease, and not buy a car that is holding resale values poorly as the discounts are built right into the lease in such cases. And by resale I mean what used cars are really selling for, not a high lease residual, as the difference between that and the real used car selling price IS the subsidy built into the lease.
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Replying to: blckislandguy (Jul 28, 2006 6:53 pm) It therefore easily explains why in the most expensive places you still see the most HELMS, as opposed to the places with the lowest cost of living, where you will see more Hyundais and Kias. len - there are PLENTY of reasons to buy a Lexus . . . resale not being a necessary consideration. TagMan
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Replying to: ljflx (Jul 28, 2006 7:39 pm) My 1999 LS400 in-service date: Nov 13, 1998 with 13 miles on the odo. July 2006 (almost 8 years later) and with 114K miles, car runs real strong, almost like new... As to its resale value, let's see...my 14yo daughter doesn't want it (she wants an Audi TT), and my wife doesn't want it either (she likes her LX470 better), so I will trade it in (FWIW) for an LS460. Maybe they'd give me a nickel or something for it, eh ? 
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Replying to: tagman (Jul 28, 2006 7:47 pm) I live in San Diego... Not a cheap city to live by any stretch. $200K joint income is pretty much middle class here. For a city harboring one of the richest zip codes in America, an S550 is nothing to shout about. Way too many rich folks in this city of 3 Million. But $200K income, with proper investments can afford lots more than the income suggests. We have been lucky to have moved out of stocks into real estate a tad earlier than many others. And we did good in the red-hot market out here... So if you judge by income you'd say why would I buy an S550... But I sure can afford to lease one if I want to... However, the LS460 fits the bill for me. Luxury, refinement, style, quality, features/gadgetry (love gadgets) and priced right. I won't overpay for a 3-pointed star, period. Hey, I got this brochure in the mail from Lexus. It claims the LS600hL will be 208.2" long. That'll put it a few inches LONGER than the S550. Is that going to be the case ? Oh it also says the output will be MORE than 430HP, with SULEV (70% cleaner emission than an S550/A8L/760iL)... Imagine this car priced in the mid-80s ? It'd sell out pretty quick. But here is the caveat: Lexus says the car is still in "development" but will be out in 2007. Huh !!! I'd hope its closer to production by now... |
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Replying to: cyclone4 (Jul 28, 2006 6:31 pm) True. If you're interested in something more sporty than the RX, there's the totally redesigned MDX. Infiniti should also have a brand new FX35\45 by '08 or so. |
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SOURCE: Wall Street Journal July 29th, 2006 Compared with the previous Porsche Turbo model, the new car has a more utilitarian, less cluttered look. Its spoiler, which automatically pops up at high speeds to generate downward force that keeps the car's rear planted on the pavement, is barely noticeable from some angles. Nothing seems to have been added to the exterior as an afterthought. The overall look of the leather seats and brushed-metal dashboard trim is racy and well-finished, though more purposeful than luxurious. At first glance, the new Turbo looks much like a garden-variety 911 coupe The above description should be the description of all German cars. Understated with uncluttered looks, utilitarian, function before form, more purposeful than luxurious. Unfortunately not all German cars are Germanic 
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Replying to: dewey (Jul 29, 2006 7:06 am) This certainly isnt: 
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