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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#17019 of 24723 Re: S Class hybrid [dewey] by merc1

Jul 17, 2006 (9:49 pm)

Replying to: dewey (Jul 17, 2006 6:56 am)
This whole hybrid thing isn't as "hot" as some would like you to believe. In just reading various boards it doesn't seem like all of them are meeting their sales goals, much less being "sold out". We all know the Prius is hot, but what about the rest?
 
I just want to see what MB/BMW/GM are going to do with all this combined brain power. BMW should make the next generation Mini available in hybrid form, it would be perfect for it, IMO.
 
The only question is whether or not MB will offer both a gas-electric hybrid and a Bluetec diesel here? I can't see both. Guess we'll find out in 2008. The hybrid cound hinge on whether or not the bluetecs get certification for all 50 states.
 
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#17020 of 24723 I Read..... by hpowders

Jul 18, 2006 (4:27 am)

somewhere recently that Honda was planning on discontinuing its Accord hybrid because sales are disappointing.

#17021 of 24723 Cadillac loses interest in Led Zepellin by dewey

Jul 18, 2006 (8:38 am)

It has just been announced that GM will discontinue playing Led Zepellin songs for Cadillac advertisements.
 
I think the most suitable Led Zepellin tunes for GM are the following:
 
Led Zepellin songs related to GM restructurings
 
Sick Again
How Many More Times
Dazed and Confused
 
Led Zepellin songs related to potential GM bankruptcy risks
 
In My Time of Dying
Stairway to Heaven
 
 

#17022 of 24723 Doctor Z comercials by ljflx

Jul 18, 2006 (10:10 am)

NY Times story on the subject.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/18/business/media/18adco.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
 
Personally I like the spots and Dieter comes across as funny and likable IMO. But I can see the attributes of the story too.

#17023 of 24723 Re: S Class hybrid [merc1] by syswei

Jul 18, 2006 (11:41 am)

Replying to: merc1 (Jul 17, 2006 9:49 pm)
This whole hybrid thing isn't as "hot" as some would like you to believe....it doesn't seem like all of them are meeting their sales goals, much less being "sold out".
 
That is very true, the bloom is off the rose with the early hybrids, except for Prius. I think this has alot to do with modest mpg benefits especially for the "mild" hybrids, and press reporting.

#17024 of 24723 Re: I Read..... [hpowders] by lexusguy

Jul 18, 2006 (12:45 pm)

Replying to: hpowders (Jul 18, 2006 4:27 am)
I read somewhere recently that Honda was planning on discontinuing its Accord hybrid because sales are disappointing.
 
The HAH was a bad idea from the beginning. Its slightly faster than the EX-V6, costs almost as much as a TL, and average driving would get you 2-5mpg over the regular EX-V6. Wow, sign me up for that.
 
It showed that the performance hybrid idea doesn't hold water, at least not in a mainstream car.

#17025 of 24723 Re: S Class hybrid [merc1] by dewey

Jul 18, 2006 (1:08 pm)

Replying to: merc1 (Jul 17, 2006 9:49 pm)
BMW should make the next generation Mini available in hybrid form, it would be perfect for it, IMO
 
I dont know if they exist in Europe but a diesel Mini sounds real tempting to me.
 
Focusing on HELMs I just cant imagine myself buying a premium priced luxury hybrid. Having said that my wife may be driving a third generation 100 mpg lithium battery powered plug-in turbo Prius (everything I read about the upcoming Prius sounds too good to be true---I guess only time will tell).

#17027 of 24723 Re: I Read..... [lexusguy] by hpowders

Jul 18, 2006 (2:45 pm)

Replying to: lexusguy (Jul 18, 2006 12:45 pm)
I don't anticipate Lexus selling too many LS hybrids either.
A very limited audience for that one, IMO.

#17028 of 24723 Re: I Read..... [hpowders] by lexusguy

Jul 18, 2006 (6:22 pm)

Replying to: hpowders (Jul 18, 2006 2:45 pm)
I don't anticipate Lexus selling too many LS hybrids either.
A very limited audience for that one, IMO.
 
The GS450h will definitely never be a big seller. Hard to say about the LS600h at this point. I think it depends on whether buyers are willing to give up the "V-12" badge they could get on a BMW or Merc. Thats the biggest problem with the Jag Portfolio, they have to say "we're as good as they are, don't look at the engine, don't look at the engine". The XJ12 didnt have that problem.

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