High End Luxury Cars

24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#16412 of 24700 Inspector Parrot by hpowders Jun 15, 2006 (1:41 pm)
Well apparently in Europe, "heritage, heritage, heritage" means everything, which explains why the great German HELMS-MB, BMW and Audi are absolutely crushing Lexus across the pond. I don't hate Lexus. I look forward to driving a new LS in the Fall to see if its handling has improved a bit. It will be quite tough for Lexus to break in over there, however, because of the great, proud tradition of fantastic performance-oriented vehicles that Europeans have grown accustomed to expect. Steve-come on now-wouldn't you really rather have a Buick? Replies to this message: ljflx (Jun 15, 2006 1:45 pm) hpowders (Jun 15, 2006 1:50 pm) reality2 (Jun 15, 2006 5:51 pm) reality2 (Jun 15, 2006 6:00 pm) hpowders (Jun 16, 2006 3:49 am) tagman (Jun 15, 2006 1:46 pm)
#16413 of 24700 Re: Ticket windows are now open. [designman] by tagman Jun 15, 2006 (1:41 pm)
Replying to: designman (Jun 15, 2006 11:11 am) Tagman, that post of yours was in-your-face candid. Me thinks we are on the verge of the 110th MB vs Lexus Super Bowl. I don’t recall you ever being the starting QB in one of these. No . . . I'm not the man for the job. Because I don't hate Lexus the way it might appear sometimes. It's well known that I have a huge respect for them, particularly the upcoming LS. But, admittedly, I can't stand it when I see Lexus fans taking undeserved heaping helpings of credit and denying Mercedes it's rightful kudos. That's really all it is. TagMan
#16414 of 24700 Re: A very interesting and timely article! [ljflx] by tagman Jun 15, 2006 (1:44 pm)
Replying to: ljflx (Jun 15, 2006 1:34 pm) That sentence discreditted the whole article No it didn't. That's too extreme. There were many interesting and valid perspectives. Disagree with one, and you don't have to discredit the entire thing. TagMan
#16415 of 24700 Re: Inspector Parrot [hpowders] by ljflx Jun 15, 2006 (1:45 pm)
Replying to: hpowders (Jun 15, 2006 1:41 pm) When Lexus gets serious about Europe we'll see how well that heritage argument holds up. Till now Europe as been double AA ball but that will change. Ten years from now it will be a different story and Lexus will have hurt someone there. You can bet your life on that. Replies to this message: hpowders (Jun 15, 2006 1:50 pm) reality2 (Jun 15, 2006 5:51 pm) reality2 (Jun 15, 2006 6:00 pm) hpowders (Jun 16, 2006 3:49 am)
#16416 of 24700 Re: I [ljflx] by dhamilton Jun 15, 2006 (1:45 pm)
Replying to: ljflx (Jun 15, 2006 1:30 pm) could you expound on that please Replies to this message: ljflx (Jun 15, 2006 1:46 pm)
#16417 of 24700 Re: I [dhamilton] by ljflx Jun 15, 2006 (1:46 pm)
Replying to: dhamilton (Jun 15, 2006 1:45 pm) Your superiority comments - give me a break - OK.
#16418 of 24700 Re: Inspector Parrot [hpowders] by tagman Jun 15, 2006 (1:46 pm)
Replying to: hpowders (Jun 15, 2006 1:41 pm) Apparently, heritage has been banned. Next is status, and then prestige. Soon the ONLY factor to determine a HELM will be reliability. Oh well, I guess the Corolla will be a HELM soon. TagMan
#16419 of 24700 Re: 2009 Audi A7 - YES, AUDI [tagman] by blkhemi Jun 15, 2006 (1:47 pm)
Replying to: tagman (Jun 14, 2006 7:51 pm) Tag, I've got one sentence: Audi, if you build it, they will come!! This iteration of another CLS-esque car is better designed, at least in the pics, than some of the others. Mainly headroom will be better than even the CLS. And this car gets Audi's new 4.2L 450hp, direct injected, DSG-equipped V8. I saw a "unofficial" pic of the "sport" model of the car last month. All I can say is Audi must've been cross-shopping at AMG as the front and rear aprons look very MB to me, which is no bad thing. Looks like they also chopped off it's nose for a more smoother finish. I'll keep you posted on new pics, like the spy photo of the upcoming Q5 and '09 A8L.. Replies to this message: tagman (Jun 15, 2006 1:55 pm) blkhemi (Jun 15, 2006 4:14 pm) reality2 (Jun 15, 2006 5:42 pm)
#16420 of 24700 Aston Martin and heritage in Spades by stevekilburn Jun 15, 2006 (1:49 pm)
Replying to: lexusguy (Jun 15, 2006 1:14 pm) Aston has one victory in 1959 at Le Mans. Thats all! Most of aston legend is just baseless propaganda and fraud, just like most other british brands. Choicest words are used. "Storied marque", "world's best", "world beating", timeless elegance, refined, rare, elegant, unparalleled, glorious, legendary, unequaled, fabled and other non-sense. Fraudulent propaganda by sleazy british press and their cronies on East Coast this side of pond. Just like a medieval fisherman cries "Best fish" while selling a rotten one. If you think I am missing something you should point it out CLEARLY otherwise this "spades" thing is just an irresponsible ornament. Replies to this message: lexusguy (Jun 15, 2006 8:33 pm)
#16421 of 24700 Re: Inspector Parrot [ljflx] by hpowders Jun 15, 2006 (1:50 pm)
Replying to: ljflx (Jun 15, 2006 1:45 pm) I certainly hope you are correct because we consumers will eventually benefit when one of the manufacturers turns the heat up a bit. it will keep the competition honest and we get better vehicles. Looking forward to seeing how Toyota and Honda react to the heat currently being provided by Hyundai.