High End Luxury Cars

24697 messages, Last post on Nov 28, 2009 at 3:09 PM

You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens

What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#15848 of 24697 Re: diesel-hybrids and Audi LeMans [blkhemi] by reality2 May 29, 2006 (5:41 pm)
Replying to: blkhemi (May 27, 2006 5:59 am) Would love to hear about the super-luxury variant more if you have additional information or where to go. I've heard that Audi has been planning a higher HELM above the A8L W-12 (which is pretty high already at around $140,000 loaded) in the near future, but thought it was only conjecture. Great read by the way - your post. Replies to this message: blkhemi (May 29, 2006 6:29 pm)
#15849 of 24697 Re: hpowders [feverhart] by hpowders May 29, 2006 (6:24 pm)
Replying to: feverhart (May 29, 2006 1:12 pm) Well, to be fair, I have only seen the one comparo that Lexusguy provided. The S350 beat out the A8 and BMW 7 Series (no surprise here; BMW never wins the HELM comparos) offering the best in performance and luxury. The LS may compete with MB in the latter, but, not the former, IMO. We'll just have to wait for a head to head comparo in the American press of the A8, BMW 7 series, LS460 and MB S-Class. Hopefully, in the Fall. As an indulgent digression: come on C&D. How long must we wait for a 2007 Camry SE 6 vs Accord EX 6 comparo? Replies to this message: lexusguy (May 30, 2006 12:39 am) hpowders (May 30, 2006 3:29 am) pat (May 30, 2006 5:47 am) stevekilburn (May 30, 2006 5:50 pm) reality2 (May 30, 2006 6:30 pm) hpowders (May 30, 2006 11:33 pm) and 15 more...
#15850 of 24697 Re: baby boomers, gen-x, gen-y, boring price discourse and 1969-1993 [tagman] by blckislandguy May 29, 2006 (6:28 pm)
Replying to: tagman (May 24, 2006 7:28 pm) Its about.. GLOBAL LOVE AND GLOBAL PASSION ..(bold in the original) Huh????? I've love to be a fly on the wall if this was ever said to the President of Nissan as he commutes to France to his day job as President of Renault. Or some guy working third shift in a Lexus plant cranking these things out so that the Americans can snap them up to drive to the mall. Steve, this is nutty.
#15851 of 24697 Re: diesel-hybrids and Audi LeMans [reality2] by blkhemi May 29, 2006 (6:29 pm)
Replying to: reality2 (May 29, 2006 5:41 pm) The only thing I've heard regarding the most expensive A8 is that Audi is playing with the idea of offering it. The only problem I have with the idea is that I think it would probably have conflicting issues seeing how you can get a Flying Spur for the same money. Maybe brand preference will play in here. The top A8 is said to have best-in-class feature content and power. Audi is also reported to increase warranty limits to 6/80,000 miles for all Audi's, a first for any luxury make. Wonder what's behind this? I thought the 5yr/60k offering with the free scheduled maintanence was quite good. Other than what I've read in Autocar, it was reported on a German site that Audi is likely to give the car a Maybach-like rear seating area with the primo seats and other first-rate appointments. And I was happy with my rear refridgerator.....
#15852 of 24697 Maserati Warranty Policies by blckislandguy May 29, 2006 (6:39 pm)
FWIW, I was told recently that one of the UAG (Penske's operation) dealerships gave up their Maserati franchise because Maser just wasn't stepping up to the plate on warranty issues. They claimed that they were indeed selling the car in significant numbers but just weren't going to stand for the CSI beating they were taking. Lending credence to this, Maserati USA has not appointed anyone new in this territory. If true, this is not how to rebuild a troubled brand.
#15853 of 24697 Re: hpowders [feverhart] by oac May 29, 2006 (7:56 pm)
Replying to: feverhart (May 29, 2006 1:12 pm) Nice one, feverhart... If the LS460 drives like its on rails, luxuried-up like a Maybach, rides like a Maser, and is as reliable as your favorite couch, these naysayers won't touch it, except look for ways to bash it. So why bother ! Does it matter that the LS is the #1 luxury full-size sedan in the US 5 years running (the S550 will take that crown for this year tho')... Oh, isn't the 750 on its second re-do in 5 years ? Yet it barely registers on the richter scale of buyers. FWIW, its gonna be the elites of the HELM class battling it out - the S550/S600 and the LS-series of sedans. Tough, but Audi really should be in the mix, but its just too tepid in sales here in the NA market. But I guess we'll see soon enough, won't we ?
#15854 of 24697 Re: Oac: belated response [designman] by oac May 29, 2006 (9:06 pm)
Replying to: designman (May 26, 2006 4:49 am) Oac, if you were wowed by a 330 with SP, driving a Porsche is wow cubed, whether it's a Boxster or 911. Warning: stay away from these cars. Thanks for the warning, Designman.... Someday in a not too distant future, I'll be looking to buy a car of this type since they do really fit my driving style; of course you won't know it based on the cars we have at home, for now. Just gonna wait for the kids to exit the home before I get to address that other need for a driver's car for moi. Bridging the then-and-now will be a replacement of my '99 LS400 either this fall or early spring of '07 when the frenzy around the LS460 subsides somewhat.
#15855 of 24697 Re: hpowders [hpowders] by lexusguy May 30, 2006 (12:39 am)
Replying to: hpowders (May 29, 2006 6:24 pm) As an indulgent digression: come on C&D. How long must we wait for a 2007 Camry SE 6 vs Accord EX 6 comparo? I'm sure C&D wont do another family sedan test until the new Altima and new Accord are ready to compete, so its probably going to be awhile. My guess is that the Camry would win against the current Accord. Replies to this message: hpowders (May 30, 2006 3:29 am) pat (May 30, 2006 5:47 am)
#15856 of 24697 Re: hpowders [lexusguy] by hpowders May 30, 2006 (3:29 am)
Replying to: lexusguy (May 30, 2006 12:39 am) And don't forget the Sonata. Another serious competitor. Folks are learning what it is like to be the first kid on the block with a re-designed Camry. A new thread has arisen recently: "2007 Toyota Camry Woes." It has 125 posts already. Of course, problems may arise with any new model, even (this will be hard) BMW's. Replies to this message: pat (May 30, 2006 5:47 am)
#15857 of 24697 Re: hpowders [hpowders] by pat HOST May 30, 2006 (5:47 am)
Replying to: hpowders (May 30, 2006 3:29 am) We have some sort of "issues" discussion for all vehicles that draw a substantial number of posters here. And as we move to the more granular format of our future, that will tend to increase, not decrease. It has nothing to do with the cars themeselves, just the Forums trying to give folks what they've been requesting. Camrys, Altimas, Accords, Sonatas - other Forums discussions - none of this has thing in the world to do with HELMs.