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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Re: diesel-hybrids and Audi LeMans [houdini1] by lexusguy
May 27, 2006 (11:29 am)
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Replying to: houdini1 (May 27, 2006 9:57 am)

I think the "Auto Union" face works on some of Audi's cars, and not so much on others. I've seen a few jet-black Audi A3s on the road, they are slick looking cars.
 
On the bigger cars though, I think its just too much. Slap some wings on the new A6 Avant, and it would look like an old MiG fighter jet.
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Re: diesel-hybrids and Audi LeMans [garyh1] by tagman
May 27, 2006 (12:16 pm)
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Replying to: garyh1 (May 27, 2006 9:06 am)

And we can always hope that by the '09 model year, Audi will have given up on that "wide-mouth bass" front end, or at least figured out how to make it better fit in with the rest of the car's design. That kept me personally from even considering the car the last time.
 
Is it my imagination, or has VW also adopted this look?
 
TagMan
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Re: diesel-hybrids and Audi LeMans [tagman] by blkhemi
May 27, 2006 (6:16 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (May 27, 2006 12:16 pm)

Yes the latest gen Jetta's and Golf's have adopted the look also. But it is to a lesser extent. The Jetta's face isn't so wide-mouthed as an A4 for instance.
 
VW and Audi will tell you that the grilles are more of a need than a want. They said that it was easy to convert to the new Euro pedestrian safety measurements and also give teh cars a "face-lift" at the same time.
 
All of the cars would prabably look good with the grille if it wasn't dressed in 40lbs of bling-chrome. Body-colored w/ black mesh(as on the Jetta GLI and Golf GTI) grilles look very good on these cars. Strangely enough, the V-Dubs have more chrome than the Audis. My W-12 has a thin strip of chrome around the grille and also where the front license plate(mid section of the grille) goes which is good enough.
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New A8 vs 7 vs S video by lexusguy
May 28, 2006 (4:10 am)
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Interesting comparison test. I don't think any of the major US publications has done a comparison test with the new S yet, right?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLbdK3S37sw&eurl=
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Re: New A8 vs 7 vs S video [lexusguy] by blkhemi
May 28, 2006 (1:41 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (May 28, 2006 4:10 am)

Very interesting video. The BMW trails both for handling? The Audi the most unsafe and the better handler of the 3? And the new Mercedes interior is better than Audi? For sure this must've been a biased comparo.
 
It is nice to see how the 6-cylinder versions of these cars operate.
 
BTW: All of these cars must have Euro-spec suspension as the narrator said they all rode quite firm. I know the home market models have firmer suspensions than the America-bound models as I've driven all three cars and found them quite supple, even the sportiest of the model offerings(A8 Sport, 760i Sport, and the S65 AMG)
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Re: New A8 vs 7 vs S video [lexusguy] by hpowders
May 28, 2006 (3:50 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (May 28, 2006 4:10 am)

Great video. Thanks.
 
While I'm sure the new LS will be a significant improvement over its predecessor, it is doubtful that it will equal, let alone surpass the MB S-Class.
 
I would be perfectly comfortable with BMW pulling out of the HELM sedan category where it is clearly over-matched and concentrate on what it does best: the 3-series, the 5-series and the M's.
 
Just saw MI-3. Heartbreaking how they blew up that breathtaking Lambo!
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Re: ON DIESEL, hybrids and ethanol [stevekilburn] by houdini1
May 29, 2006 (4:32 am)
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Replying to: stevekilburn (May 25, 2006 7:38 pm)

Thanks for clearing that up for me Steve. NOW it makes sense.
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hpowders by feverhart
May 29, 2006 (1:12 pm)
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As the saying goes, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder", and perhaps so is substance. From my point of view and to take some liberty in paraphrasing you, I'm sure the new LS will be a significant improvement over its predecessor, it is doubtLESS that it will more than equal, and surpass the MB S-Class.
 
OK, you have it; couldn't let this go unchallenged. We'll just have to wait to see. It is nice to have your thoughtful input.
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Good job, Fever! by drfill
May 29, 2006 (4:24 pm)
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   Way to come correct! The LS has nothing to fear in the S-Class, and has proven a more than worthy adversary before. All eyez on Lexus.
 
   It's time to take the gloves off! Playtime is over!
  
   The Germans wouldn't be so smug. They've learned a lesson.
 
   DrFill

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