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Sedans High End Luxury Cars
24685 messages, Last post on Nov 02, 2009 at 4:40 PM
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Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: stevekilburn (May 25, 2006 7:51 pm)
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Replying to: reality2 (May 26, 2006 7:01 pm) Yes the next A8 will move up even more in size(which is definetely not lacking now), and will prove to be one of the most sophisticated cars in it's class. There's even talks of a super-high luxury variant to push the envelope to 200k. Surely this will be a super-low volume model, but it will have the goodies to back it up, mainly the 600-hp plus twin-turbo FSI V-10. Audi is still the only manufacturer to use turbo on a direct injected engine. Wonder how long that'll last? I'm most interested in the 450-hp V-8 version because as it looks, it'll be the most powerful player in it's class(base engines of course). Audi has also revamped Quattro so that the cars will have a RWD-biased power development. Also the cars will have much shorter front over hangs as the platforms switches to a sort of Nissan-like front-midship engine design, meaning the engines will sit behind the axle line, for better handling and weight distribution. As most of you can tell, I'm probably the biggest Audi nut on this forum. I believed Volkswagen/Audi last month when they said that they know that they've left North America out in the cold regarding the A8 and will rectify the situation this go round. They have to in order to stay competitive. In Europe, the A8 is often the first or second best selling car, so it's likely that they'll definetely advertise a lot more here. And Audi does have this uncanny ability to introduce the flagship in a model year when no other car in it's class is about to be released, hence the '09 release, just like '04. Judging from my W-12, which is probably the best kept secret in the biz, Audi is not a joke. The company has to do a better here in North America with this car. The A3/A4/A6 and heck even the Q7 will sell themselves, but when dealing with a customer that's about to plop 70-80 large on a car, you must know what the customer is wanting in a car. The current A8 has it, but there has been a huge communications breakdown here that has inhibited Audi's share of the pot. Hopefully this will change soon.
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Replying to: blkhemi (May 27, 2006 5:59 am) And we can always hope that by the '09 model year, Audi will have given up on that "wide-mouth bass" front end, or at least figured out how to make it better fit in with the rest of the car's design. That kept me personally from even considering the car the last time. |
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Replying to: garyh1 (May 27, 2006 9:06 am)
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Replying to: houdini1 (May 27, 2006 9:57 am) |
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Replying to: houdini1 (May 27, 2006 9:57 am) On the bigger cars though, I think its just too much. Slap some wings on the new A6 Avant, and it would look like an old MiG fighter jet. |
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Replying to: garyh1 (May 27, 2006 9:06 am) Is it my imagination, or has VW also adopted this look? TagMan
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Replying to: tagman (May 27, 2006 12:16 pm) VW and Audi will tell you that the grilles are more of a need than a want. They said that it was easy to convert to the new Euro pedestrian safety measurements and also give teh cars a "face-lift" at the same time. All of the cars would prabably look good with the grille if it wasn't dressed in 40lbs of bling-chrome. Body-colored w/ black mesh(as on the Jetta GLI and Golf GTI) grilles look very good on these cars. Strangely enough, the V-Dubs have more chrome than the Audis. My W-12 has a thin strip of chrome around the grille and also where the front license plate(mid section of the grille) goes which is good enough. |
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Interesting comparison test. I don't think any of the major US publications has done a comparison test with the new S yet, right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLbdK3S37sw&eurl= |
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Replying to: lexusguy (May 28, 2006 4:10 am) It is nice to see how the 6-cylinder versions of these cars operate. BTW: All of these cars must have Euro-spec suspension as the narrator said they all rode quite firm. I know the home market models have firmer suspensions than the America-bound models as I've driven all three cars and found them quite supple, even the sportiest of the model offerings(A8 Sport, 760i Sport, and the S65 AMG) |
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