High End Luxury Cars

24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#15814 of 24700 Clarkson's best and worst of '06 by lexusguy May 25, 2006 (6:14 pm)
Some very interesting choices, and of course the incomparable Clarkson wit. http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/section/0,,27909,00.html Replies to this message: hpowders (May 26, 2006 4:44 am)
#15815 of 24700 Re: Observations on the neverending LS pricing discussion [tagman] by blckislandguy May 25, 2006 (6:55 pm)
Replying to: tagman (May 25, 2006 7:54 am) Tagman, I think to really understand your position and risk exposure you have to slice it a bit finer. Not just say 15% intl equities but, say, 10% European and 5% emerging. Same thing with bonds. (Incidentally, the emerging market bond funds have done very, very well.) Clearly the old rules of taking your age and subtracting from 100 to get your equity allocation vs. bonds has changed. Dramatically. Replies to this message: tagman (May 25, 2006 7:10 pm)
#15816 of 24700 Re: Observations on the neverending LS pricing discussion [blckislandguy] by tagman May 25, 2006 (7:10 pm)
Replying to: blckislandguy (May 25, 2006 6:55 pm) Tagman, I think to really understand your position and risk exposure you have to slice it a bit finer. If you are that interested, one third of my international equities is strictly divided equally between Japan, Russia, India, China and yes, emerging. The other two thirds I allow to vary. The fixed instruments I mentioned are primarily bonds that I've selected over the years, and represent 25% of the entire portfolio as I mentioned in the original post. Up until today I was 60% US equities, and did very well. That is one of the changes I made today, reducing them to 40% and placing 20% of my portfolio into ready cash. Also, FYI, my international was 10% prior to today, and is now 15% of my entire portfolio, broken down as indicated above. Is that what you had in mind? TagMan
#15817 of 24700 Re: ON DIESEL, hybrids and ethanol [houdini1] by stevekilburn May 25, 2006 (7:38 pm)
Replying to: houdini1 (May 24, 2006 7:39 pm) I meant 17 million new vehicle sales every year. Replies to this message: houdini1 (May 29, 2006 4:32 am)
#15818 of 24700 Re: A busy day at the watering hole....... [merc1] by stevekilburn May 25, 2006 (7:39 pm)
Replying to: merc1 (May 24, 2006 9:06 pm) I am thinking about it, may be a letter to Okuda and one to Press.
#15819 of 24700 Re: Observations on the neverending LS pricing discussion [garyh1] by stevekilburn May 25, 2006 (7:42 pm)
Replying to: garyh1 (May 24, 2006 10:27 pm) Pricing debate is just the starting point. Eventually this discussion is about globalization of Lexus and its future evolution into a "premium HELM"
#15820 of 24700 LJ, thats a lie of epic proportions, when did I ask to price LS at S level by stevekilburn May 25, 2006 (7:46 pm)
Replying to: ljflx (May 25, 2006 7:25 am) Can you point even one post where I said LS should be priced head-to-head with S550. This is an outrage and I condemn it in strongest possible terms. When you look at the general atmosphere you have to go by MSRP and not any whims. Of course the final transaction will vary but thats not the point. The point is LS competing head-to-head on pricing with A8/7.
#15821 of 24700 diesel-hybrids and Audi LeMans by stevekilburn May 25, 2006 (7:51 pm)
Replying to: blkhemi (May 25, 2006 2:33 pm) Well then why is Audi using diesel V12 for sebring and Le Mans? Is it not going to be migrated to Audi A8 in future? Am I missing something. I have been rooting for diesel hybrids ever since I joined Edmunds. Diesel-hybrids is the long term (20-30 yrs) solution. Replies to this message: reality2 (May 26, 2006 7:01 pm) blkhemi (May 27, 2006 5:59 am) garyh1 (May 27, 2006 9:06 am) and 13 more... reality2 (May 29, 2006 5:41 pm) and 1 more...
#15822 of 24700 diesel-hybrids and American Economy [cyclone4] by stevekilburn May 25, 2006 (7:52 pm)
Replying to: cyclone4 (May 25, 2006 8:39 am) Thanks for corrections, but whether its pulp, switch grass or sugarcane, the land use will be immense and its going to create HAVOC. Diesel-hybrids with 100 mpg is the way to go, and cafe standards should be raised to at least 50 mpg for cars and 48 mpg for trucks in the next 5 years in a gradual manner. Diesel and gas should be raised to 10$/gallon to protect America's future and to boost the economy, environment and living standards. Only Ferrari, which is Jesus' car of choice should be exempt.
#15823 of 24700 Re: Observations on the neverending LS pricing discussion [ljflx] by merc1 May 25, 2006 (9:29 pm)
Replying to: ljflx (May 25, 2006 7:25 am) I agree. Lexus is likely going to come within a bumper of doing what he is now saying they should do, especially the LS460L and A8L. Slow and careful growth is the Lexus/Toyota way and it has worked brilliantly much to the dismay of the nearly the entire auto industry so there is no need to go radical with pricing. Long money vs. short. I'm still reeling over the winner, not really Idol material IMO. I would have picket Katherine. What I really don't like is that the word was out that morning about Taylor winning, they cheapened the whole thing by basically letting the cat out of the bag. To me he didn't even look surprised. His reaction looked staged. I think someone will likely pick up Paris, Chris, Ace, Elliot and Katherine all to varying degrees of course. When Clive Davis was talking about who sold what I was surprised that last year's winner actually sold anything. She really wasn't that good, at least not then. The finale show was the best episode since the initial trial episodes. Toni Braxton and Elliot didn't make a good team though. He over sang her by a mile because of her sultry style. I agree the others will likely outshine Taylor over the long term. He is just too goofy for me to take seriously most of the time and he looks 10-15 years older than he really is, so he likely won't be marketed to the kids. Last, but not least I hope Paula gets some help during the off season. M Replies to this message: hpowders (May 26, 2006 4:41 am)