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You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens

What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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A Siegfried Idyll by hpowders
May 25, 2006 (7:54 am)
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Lisa Tucker had more charisma and personality than any of them, IMO.
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Re: Observations on the neverending LS pricing discussion [ljflx] by tagman
May 25, 2006 (7:54 am)
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Replying to: ljflx (May 25, 2006 7:25 am)

lj - meeting over . . . made some significant changes for now . . . here's the skinny . . . 40% US equities, 15% International equities, 25% fixed instruments, 20% pure sideline-ready cash.
 
If market drops significantly, I'll be BUYING equities, not selling.
 
Keeping both eyes on the Fed, and interestingly, one eye on the bird flu situation.
 
Looking at Wal-Mart again. Microsoft remains a long-term hold.
 
How 'bout you?
 
TagMan
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A Great Day For America! by hpowders
May 25, 2006 (8:10 am)
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Lay and Skilling guilty on combined 24 counts.
Hope they get the max. for each count.
My only regret is that these guys aren't 25 years younger.
Send 'em to Colorado with Moussari.
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Re: ON DIESEL, hybrids and ethanol [stevekilburn] by cyclone4
May 25, 2006 (8:39 am)
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Replying to: stevekilburn (May 24, 2006 6:27 pm)

Hi guys! I have not been visiting this forum very much at all until the past several days. I see now that this is where the action is (Wow!).
 
Steve, you state on your post from yesterday that "Brazil has has destroyed its ecological balance by switching to ethanol and large scale sugar cane farming. I just saw a documentary on PBS on how Brazil destroyed the Amazon."
 
You are implying here that the Amazon has been getting destroyed due to sugar cane farming. That is not correct. The Amazon destruction has zero to do with sugar cane farming. Sugar cane is grown is Sao Paulo State and also to the north of Bahia State near the Coast. These areas are far from the Amazon. The Amazon has been getting eroded in order to make more room for soybean farming and not sugar cane.
 
Also, you state that we will need to clear more land here in the U.S. to increase corn acreage astronomically in order to make all the ethanol that we would need from corn. There is one problem with this statement. Who says that 10-15 years from now our ethanol will be coming from corn? We can make ethanol out of a lot of other products: switch grass, wood pulp, sugar cane, etc., etc.
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Re: Observations on the neverending LS pricing discussion [tagman] by ljflx
May 25, 2006 (8:42 am)
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Replying to: tagman (May 25, 2006 7:54 am)

Tagman - I'm about 50% on US equitis amd about 10% int'l. and about 15% cash. We're very similar. Microsoft is also a LT hold for me. I'm not in Walmart but I like it.
 
Idol - Lisa was also one of my favorites and she has plenty of potential. Loved Mandisa as well and will be interested to see if she gets some traction. I hope both do well. In summary I thought this years talent pool (top 7 or so) was deeper and more evenly matched than last years group but no one in this years group could touch last years top 2.
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Re: Observations on the neverending LS pricing discussion [ljflx] by tagman
May 25, 2006 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: ljflx (May 25, 2006 8:42 am)

Tagman - I'm about 50% on US equitis amd about 10% int'l. and about 15% cash. We're very similar. Microsoft is also a LT hold for me. I'm not in Walmart but I like it.
 
I am not surprised at the similarity. Just goes to show that our business perspectives continue to be on the same page.
 
BTW, where's the rest of the 25%?
 
TagMan
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Re: Observations on the neverending LS pricing discussion [tagman] by ljflx
May 25, 2006 (10:13 am)
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Replying to: tagman (May 25, 2006 9:00 am)

Fixed rate securities/bonds.
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FORUM DISCUSSION by lopz
May 25, 2006 (10:34 am)
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Many of you in this forum seem very knowledgeable about HELMs, and as a 745Li owner I'd sure like to learn more. Yet most of the topic revolves around pricing. There are news out of the upcoming Z6, yet not a single comment on it. How about it?
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Re: Diesel, ethanol over hybrids [tagman] by blkhemi
May 25, 2006 (2:33 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (May 24, 2006 7:41 pm)

Tag: I wholly agree with the notion of integral diesel-hybrid technology, now with the proven reliablilty of new gen hybrid powertrains.
 
Steve: Audi has reportedly "scrapped" the V-12 for the A8(at least for our market) diesel idea in lieu of fortifing the ubiquitous 5.0L V-10 TDI with the low-sulfur/no particulate exhaust system similar to the marvelous MB Bluetec. It will reportedly one up the current offering with 400-hp(vs.310) and over 600lb-ft(vs.553) of torque powering through a new 8-speed autobox good for handling 750lb-ft of torque while being 29 pounds "lighter" than the 6-speed it replaces. A8 Sport models for '09 will have a DSG tranny, as well as the '10/'11 AMG-chasin' S8 with over 600-hp.
 
The diesel version of the A8 has tested above 30mpg, given it's incredible power, that's a huge accomplishment.
 
Merc: I read in Autocar last week that Mercedes is fiddling with the possibility of a S600 diesel. I wonder if this is the surprise that they've promised since it's release? DCX has reportedly given the green light to Chrysler to let their end of the business use the Bluetec 3.2L CDI. Good news indeed.
 
BTW: If MB holds on to their promise, there will be 7 variants of the S to choose from: S550, S600, S63, S65. Suspected future models for our side of the pond: S450, S(some kind of diesel), and a possible S350 towards the end fo the model cycle.
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Re: Diesel, ethanol over hybrids [blkhemi] by tagman
May 25, 2006 (3:38 pm)
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Replying to: blkhemi (May 25, 2006 2:33 pm)

BTW: If MB holds on to their promise, there will be 7 variants of the S to choose from: S550, S600, S63, S65. Suspected future models for our side of the pond: S450, S(some kind of diesel), and a possible S350 towards the end fo the model cycle.
 
I am suspicious that the latter three could end up being two . . . one diesel and one smaller gas ICE with their new stratified gas injection. Whatcha think?
 
TagMan

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