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24700 messages,  Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens

What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Re: BACK to HELM [stevekilburn] by hpowders
May 24, 2006 (6:37 pm)
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Replying to: stevekilburn (May 24, 2006 6:20 pm)

Spoken like a true hypocrite.
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Re: Dag, Steve! You and I are around the same age! [drfill] by stevekilburn
May 24, 2006 (6:42 pm)
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Replying to: drfill (May 24, 2006 6:27 pm)

Those were the days..., I never got those Infiniti ads! I think Infiniti marketing bombed half the deal and the other half was the lousy flag-ship.
 
Its the flag-ship which established Lexus and I believe Infiniti will have to do something really spectacular for the next Q if it aspires to be global something.
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Re: BACK to HELM [hpowders] by stevekilburn
May 24, 2006 (6:43 pm)
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Re: Dag, Steve! You and I are around the same age! [stevekilburn] by hpowders
May 24, 2006 (6:47 pm)
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Replying to: stevekilburn (May 24, 2006 6:42 pm)

Small point. Infiniti is not a brand for discussion on the HELM board.
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Re: baby boomers, gen-x, gen-y, boring price discourse and 1969-1993 [stevekilburn] by blckislandguy
May 24, 2006 (6:48 pm)
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Replying to: stevekilburn (May 24, 2006 6:08 pm)

Gee, you're right. Only a boomer would have the full perspective. He would have seen the first Japanese cars as indeed "cut-rate tin-boxes" that would last maybe one winter in Buffalo before rusting out. Later he would have seen the slavish copying of American cars. He would understand that their high content level and a lack of many option packages was a function of logistics: when the plant is a long way away you don't want to offer too many choices. He would understand that sure they have come a long way since the early Datsuns he drove when he came back from Vietnam but still all in all the Germans have a tradition, a heritage. Kind of like a regimental tie. Someting that you just aren't going to duplicate in a 35 year spurt. But, he'll understand that for HELM buyers looking for a Camry-weld-the-hood shut experience, Lexus is the way to go.
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Re: baby boomers, gen-x, gen-y, boring price discourse and 1969-1993 [blckislandguy] by hpowders
May 24, 2006 (6:50 pm)
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Replying to: blckislandguy (May 24, 2006 6:48 pm)

I do believe you are wasting your time.
Consider the source.
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Re: baby boomers, gen-x, gen-y, boring price discourse and 1969-1993 [blcki by stevekilburn
May 24, 2006 (6:54 pm)
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Replying to: blckislandguy (May 24, 2006 6:48 pm)

With increasing globalization, the heritage factor has assumed a new role and is no more the dominant factor.
 
And yes the pace at which we are moving, 35 years is more than enough. I would say you can duplicate that success in 20 years. Which means in 2009, when Lexus celebrates its 20th, we will have a toast and to germans too, who have sustained such competition.
 
Benz churned out million+ cars from 1999 onwards and BMW followed that in 2004 and Audi is on the way to million mark in 2009. Who would have thought??? Its about GLOBAL OUTLOOK AND GLOBAL LOVE AND GLOBAL PASSION, GUYS WAKE UP, WE ARE IN A TINY VILLAGE AND ITS CALLED THE EARTH.
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Re: baby boomers, gen-x, gen-y, boring price discourse and 1969-1993 [blcki [stevekilburn] by tagman
May 24, 2006 (7:28 pm)
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Replying to: stevekilburn (May 24, 2006 6:54 pm)

Its about GLOBAL OUTLOOK AND GLOBAL LOVE AND GLOBAL PASSION, GUYS WAKE UP, WE ARE IN A TINY VILLAGE AND ITS CALLED THE EARTH.
 
Steve, you said you work for a pharmaceutical company? . . . You really should NOT take those drugs yourself!
 
TagMan
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Re: ON DIESEL, hybrids and ethanol [stevekilburn] by houdini1
May 24, 2006 (7:39 pm)
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Replying to: stevekilburn (May 24, 2006 6:27 pm)

17 million vehicles? Hell, there are that many in Los Angeles! What are you talking about? Maybe I am too senile to understand?
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Re: Diesel, ethanol over hybrids [blkhemi] by tagman
May 24, 2006 (7:41 pm)
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Replying to: blkhemi (May 24, 2006 5:44 pm)

I see in the very near future diesel and ethanol technology overtaking the hybrid fad.
 
Yes. Or even integrating with it, as diesel hybrid. The progress being made with hybrid technology might end up having been a very good thing as the diesel engine improvements can then be combined with the hybrid improvements, basically substituting the gas ICE portion of the hybrid with a diesel engine instead.
 
Diesel technology is so readliy available that it seems unrealistic to think that diesel will not make a strong comeback in States.
 
Absolutely agree. It is poised for a major advance that could start even as early as next year, but more likely should start in the next two to three years from now, as more product comes to market . . . and it will.
 
We also have a very reliable alternative fuel source that it is readily available: Ethanol.
 
Also, advances in bio-diesel fuel should coincide with the advances in diesel market share.
 
Good post.
 
I just hope that all of us old-timers will be able to appreciate all these technological advancements going on in the industry. It's just so complicated . . . almost as complicated as my remote control.
 
TagMan

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