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Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: tagman (Apr 12, 2006 10:31 am) Sorry for the late post. I saw that, but you used the word ultimate, and it made me think ultimate.  And as far as pulling out the Maybach, as you can see I am no card player. I just figured with the extra 40" or so in length and 6.5' wide it might shed some light on the loosely used term of luxury. I am impressed with the level of acutrements on the Lexus, but other than the camera to see if you are looking ahead, I see no break thru technology. BTW I would like to know if those pedestrians must be moving to cause braking. The S550 has a similar system but the object must be moving some. Don't try to drive into a wall. Slower auto, no problem.
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Replying to: benzster (Apr 13, 2006 10:14 am) The LS600hL will have a hybrid system unlike any other to date. Certainly the Prius with its HSD (hybrid synergy drive) has afforded a foundation for this Lexus Hybrid Drive system, but it would appear that there will be unique and advanced differences. So . . . in that respect, I would have to say we will see breakthrough technology. Also the Park Assist will be included. Breakthrough? . . . I'll let you decide. AWD may be different than typical, but breakthrough, don't know yet. Obviously the powertrain is the big button here. It will standout as a unique vehicle in that regard. Mercedes will certainly have wonderful vehicles to choose from, and the LS600hL will only be available in a limited number anyway, so the potential "damage" to Mercedes will not be staggering and is likely to be more about "image" than in units sold perhaps. I think that Mercedes will do very well with their current plans, IF, IF, IF, they improve reliability and don't delay their upcoming changes. TagMan
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Replying to: benzster (Apr 13, 2006 10:14 am) Has anyone put a CVT in a large lux sedan before? Might help acceleration and offset some of the "lack" of hp. Plus it is more "luxurious". Some of the german fans were crowing about MB jumping from 5 to 7 speed AT....now Lexus leapfrogs to..."infinity and beyond"!
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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 13, 2006 6:44 am)
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First Ting: Yes, it is!  And B, my enthusiasm is only slightly dampened due to the release date, and the lack of depth of the information on the car. The smart move may be to "Soft Sell" the car for the next year, but I feel it'll be anti-climactic, and the Kool-Aid might be all gone by NEXT April (OH, but I have a lotta more, at least while my Mets are ruling the majors!  I, personally, would do this soft press briefing in Tokyo later this year, the full disclosure next January in Detroit, and be able to say "Reaching dealerships THIS WEEK!" at the '07 NYIAS. Highly probable that the "430+" number is being used as atest balloon, and can be adjusted as needed, since we have a few days still before release. I vote for 450. And EPA of 25/23. Toyota definitely has their own way of ruling this here place we call America, and I trust their judgement. The car will be a success, because every single sale is one taken from the "competition", so....... LJ, Kool-Aid please. Shaken, not stirred! DrFill |
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Replying to: tagman (Apr 13, 2006 11:30 am) Does that mean that it will not be a good value? hehehehe 
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Sorry for the cross-post... (Posted in ELLPS, LPS, and HELM) Since the news applies to all of these cars, didn't want to leave anybody out!  BMW Announces New iPod Interface With Expanded Model Availability and Features |
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Replying to: benzster (Apr 13, 2006 1:37 pm) This LS600hL is going to make a major statement to the world about Lexus' capabilities. Even though it won't sell in giant numbers, it WILL represent Lexus in a big way . . . bigger in "image" than in units sold. If it works as planned, and delivers all that performance and does so efficiently without service issues, and at the same time provides so many techno goodies that also work without a hitch, all the while continuing for years as a reliable vehicle . . . if it really does it all and does it well . . . then you've got to admit, it will set a benchmark of sorts. The bar will be raised for sure. Otherwise it's . . . "Houston, we have a problem". If history is any guide, however, then I think it's conceivable that Lexus reliability might actually pose a challenge to NASA TagMan |
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You are sounding more and more like a true Lexican When it comes to the LS600hL, there seems to be no greater believer or supporter than you and DrFill.... Strange bedfellows, certainly, but one I'd take in a heart-beat... Everyone knows Lexus needs a sedan above the LS4XX, so the 600hL is that sedan. But would there be another sedan slotted b/w the LS4xx and the 600hL ? Who knows ? But it begs the question: which other car would that 5L V8 be used in ??? IS, GS, LS, or the new and upcoming JX.... Enquiring minds will like to know.
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Replying to: oac (Apr 13, 2006 4:16 pm) |
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