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Sedans High End Luxury Cars
24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM
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Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: ljflx (Apr 10, 2006 11:17 am) Other groups, certainly less identifiable, I think would buy a more more modestly priced diesel in their small SUV (e.g., Jeep Liberty), large SUV (I think Ford could sell a ton of power strokes in the Expediton), or even commuting vehicle. |
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Replying to: sv7887 (Apr 11, 2006 5:47 am) Really appreciate your post. That LS still looked good after 14 years. Remarkable ! And IMO, you got one of the last really beautiful S class styles. No matter how many times I see the new S (about 6-times now), it has not grown on me.... I think the look is a step back for MB, but I stand corrected by those who find it otherwise. I wish you many years of enjoyment of the new S, and may it serve you longer than your old LS. |
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Replying to: tagman (Apr 11, 2006 4:38 pm) Tagman, despite our difference of opinion on Lexus v German brands, you do write pretty good and slowly becoming a favorite on this board. Keep it up... but don't be too hard or DrFill, he is a jolly good fellow and a darn fine poster as well. A legend, really here on Edmunds... Now to the LS600H. You have it nailed that it will be a technological marvel - coupling a gas-electric motor, with an AWD system, in a LWB trim, and doing a 5s or less 0-60 ! Seems to be a good entry for an upmarket move by Lexus. BTW, the GS450H has equally been described as a technological marvel. Its 51/49 weight distribution, its slimer and more space efficient battery system, its dynamic performance, near silent ride, exceptional speed (5.2s 0-60), great ride and handling (better than the GS430), all make the LS600H a much anticipated car. Its tomorrow, and we'll know soon enough. I speculate a 440/450 spread on HP/TQ for the LS600H. The LS460 already has 380 ponies... Plenty for a mere 4.6L motor... But there is rumor that the LS600H may spot the new 5L V8 motor coupled to the electric battery. We'll see soon enough... |
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Replying to: ljflx (Apr 11, 2006 5:21 pm) And conquer the world? Hail WalMart! Seriously . . . nice compliment. Genuine thank you.  So . . . since the debut is upon us, when do the rags get the seat of their pants in the LS600h? TagMan |
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 You are too kind! Thank you very much! You cut an impressive key stroke yourself, sir. As does Tag. I had too much time on my hands today, so I've been a little fiestier than usual, started a few more fires than necessary. BlkHemi The alacrity of the LS is due more to lack of weight (the OTHER way to create a faster car), as the LS generally weighs right around 4000-4100 lbs., while the Germans and their high-felutin (sic) acronyms carry 2-300 extra lbs. The GS ran 5.7 in C&D, the same time it pulled in the previous generation. I've seen the LS at 5.9-6.1, consistently. The GS handles well for a Lexus, but now the IS definitely is much more agile, if still more Mercedes than BMW in feel. When the GS upgrades in the fall, hopefully a sharper edge can be baked in. DrFill |
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Replying to: drfill (Apr 11, 2006 1:52 pm) I see on the other board you and others are saying 440-470hp, I wouldn't be surprised to see a full 500hp with his car considering the cooking LS460 will have 380hp. Even with the new G35, E-Class, and LS600h I'm ready for the auto show season to be over at this point. I got enough of it at Detroit and Chicago, but wait there will be a 2nd L.A. auto show in November. Gee Whiz. I know well all don't think much of Autolies, but they have some good pics of the new Altima and G35 which more or less alike and more or less like facelifts of the current vehicles than all new designs, IMO. M
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Replying to: merc1 (Apr 11, 2006 9:27 pm) Unless, of course, the 5-liter rumor turns out to be correct. |
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press release 5-liter, "more than 320kW" (320kW=429hp)
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Replying to: syswei (Apr 12, 2006 3:32 am) What I find even more interesting is that they have a 5L V8 to use somewhere. Toyota isn't going to build a 5L V8 for just one car. I suspect this new 5L will be used in that often talked about IS500 and LF-A sports car. M
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It will need to be substantially above the 460 in power to support the rather huge jump in curb weight. 50HP isn't enough. Unless you want a slower car than the 460.  DrFill
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