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Sedans High End Luxury Cars
24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM
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Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: sv7887 (Mar 17, 2006 10:21 am) I eventually unloaded the LS for a '01 S500 which was a model of both quality and reliability, despite the reputation. It has to be said that not everyone is on the "Lexus is for everyone" band-wagon. May it be style or just utter disgust, it's not for everybody. If Sam had a terrible experience with the cars after spending a huge bundle over time with the company, then I would very upset with them also, which was the case with myself. The Lexus is a time-honored vehicle as it should be in it's own right, but it is "NOT" the perfect vehicle most Lexus customers would lead a person to believe. Up until the upcoming LS460, the post '01's looked more like a puffed-n-buffed Buick Park Avenue than luxury distinctive,IMO. I now drive one of the less talked about vehicles on the HELM, the A8. And very happy with my purchase and wouldn't get rid of it for any car that's out now(maybe the upcoming S8). And maybe that's a good thing. |
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Replying to: blkhemi (Mar 15, 2006 9:37 pm) Incidentally, the air suspension is so problemattic on Range Rovers that companies offer kits so you can remove the darn air bags and go back to shocks and springs. You can do the whole retrofit for about 2K less than the cost of fixing the air bags. Do used S Classes have major trouble (i.e., expensive repairs) with their air suspension?
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Replying to: blckislandguy (Mar 17, 2006 6:55 pm) |
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Replying to: ljflx (Mar 17, 2006 12:05 pm) Idol, I agree totally. While I like your choices for the winner I think I'm going with Ace. He just had a bad week. Hopefully that is what it was. Yeah anything forget words to a song you're gone that is as bad as dropping the mic. M |
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 Top 10 Lists See all Top 10 Lists Top 10 Cars With the Best Residual Value for 2004 By Erin Riches Email | Blog Want to buy a car that really holds its value? If resale value is important to you, these are the cars likely to depreciate the least during the ownership period. Below we show the percentage of its original value that each vehicle is likely to retain after five years with an annual mileage of 15,000. Keep in mind that the residual value percentages are based on the national True Market Value® (TMV) price, plus typical options and destination charge. A quick scan of our list shows that import nameplates rule when it comes to retaining their value, Viper and Corvette excepted. Beyond that, it's clear that luxury nameplates hold an edge as well, though the lineups of non-luxury brands like Honda, Toyota and Volkswagen are also well represented. Porsche 911 — 57% Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class — 53% Acura NSX — 52% Dodge Viper Honda S2000 Mini Cooper BMW Z4 — 51% Nissan 350Z BMW M3 — 50% BMW 3 Series — 49% Honda Accord Honda Civic Volkswagen Jetta Volkswagen New Beetle Acura RSX — 48% Chevrolet Corvette Lexus ES 330 Lexus GS 300 Lexus GS 430 Lexus SC 430 Mercedes-Benz CLK55 AMG Mercedes-Benz SLK-Class Mercedes-Benz SLK32 AMG Toyota Camry Solara Toyota Celica Toyota MR2 Spyder Audi TT — 47% Infiniti G35 Mercedes-Benz CL-Class Mercedes-Benz E-Class Toyota Matrix Volkswagen GTI Volkswagen Passat Acura TL — 46% Acura TSX BMW 5 Series Mazda RX-8 Mercedes-Benz CL55 AMG Porsche Boxster Subaru Outback Toyota Camry Volkswagen Golf Jaguar S-Type R — 45% Lexus IS 300 Lexus LS 430 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG Nissan Altima Toyota Avalon Volvo XC70 DrFill
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Replying to: drfill (Mar 18, 2006 6:33 am) I haven’t watched much but I like Mandisa. Even if she doesn’t win, I think she has the most talent… knows how to bend those fundamental blues notes, plus her degree is in music, sings professionally and has that passionate gospel-rock background. I could care less if she’s had a few too many slices. She has the kind of demeanor that I think helped Carrie Underwood win it. And remember, Dorothy singing “Over the Rainbow” is the number one song in movie history... the ingenue racks up points. Yep, Kevin needs the hook… very puzzling. Ljflx... I was disappointed with the Sopranos... thought they laid it on a little too thick... far fetched. This is probably a stupid question, but is Tony gonna make it? I don't think it's necessarily a lock.
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Lots of us HELM forum readers/posters are closing in fast on 60 or are already on the wrong side. Let me pose a question. For a car nut like most of us, what is the best Last New Car? Allow me to narrow the range of alternatives. Lets assume that at this stage in your life someone else is handling your boat towing and snow plowing chores, so no pickups, however luxurious. Lets assume further that your kids have moved on (apparently though this is not the trend) and your Irish Wolfehounds have died. So no large SUVs. Lets assume further that you need/want AWD or four wheel drive to get down to Walgreen's to pick up your meds, no matter how bad the weather. Because you are going to buy this car just before you retire and it is going to be your Last New Car you are going to spend a few bucks so you can enjoy your lifetime of hard work and keep it for 10 or so years. Minor reliability problems may or not be of the same significance they were when you were working 65 hours a week and bringing in a car for service was a major hassle. Status concerns may or may not be as significant as when you were taking customers/bankers/vendors to lunch. (Although if you were single and 70, you might be better off in a HELM if you were trying to get something going with your best friends's widow.) Depreciation rates may not be of importance (who cares what your estate may get for it?). Running costs such as fuel, insurance, maintenance will be of concern because of your now fixed income. (Before you quickly think that an E Class diesel is the way to go, re-read Habitat1's post of a year or so ago on this.) Whaddya think the best Last New Car is?
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Replying to: designman (Mar 18, 2006 9:29 am) I agree on the episode. But if Tony doesn't make it than there's no show. Chase is also playing with us. The whole story about the guy - who came from nowhere - and wants to go to Florida was about his own real life situation. He was the guy that wants to abandon the show and Tony was HBO saying there's no retirement in this business. I think we see Tony in intensive care having dream sequences for a few episodes while his "family" fights for his position as leader and some even plot to kill him in the hospital (Godfather takeoff). This is just my opinion - I have no news on this. Anyway best scene of the opening episode - The Lexus GS cutting off the guys after they ate in the restaurant. Did you see that handling!
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Replying to: blckislandguy (Mar 18, 2006 10:11 am)
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Replying to: designman (Mar 18, 2006 9:29 am) Here are the LATEST projected depreciation values, and, yes designman, the 911 is in the top group. Notice the Lexus LS is only mid point. Here it is, straight from the source: http://www.alg.com/deprratings.aspx TagMan |
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