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You are in the Sedans
What is this discussion about?
Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
#14080 of 24726 At the local auto show, I sore the S550 and the LS460 together
Feb 19, 2006 (12:00 am)
Neither has many admirers! But the LS was more popular, but it was on a revolving pedestal.
The $110k price of the S550 didn't help!
The Lexus wasn't as sweet as it was in the NAIAS photos I've seen, but the car color was an Anthracite, not Silver, which hurts.
The Lexus didn't have a line out of place. It wasn't incredibly beautiful, per se, but it scores for looking strong, sleek, and for looking like a $70-80k sedan should look, unlike the current car.
Not feelin' the S550, in the flesh. Not that's it's ugly, but the beltline is off, and the rear end is generally muddled, with the rear fenders tacked on lines, "My Humps", and the Maybach knock-off tailights, it has problems. It took a step back. The current car is not much different, it is better though because it doesn't tack-on these bad styling exercises out back.
The current S is the same as the New S, without the mistakes.
What are the chances BMW will go back to the 1995 740 design?
#14081 of 24726 Re: Test drive [middlp23]
Feb 19, 2006 (6:40 pm)
Welcome to the board. For what it's worth, many euro fans around here actually consider not being able to feel what the tires just got in touch with a bad bad bad vehicle trait (they call "isolation chamber") even among the HELM cars. I have no idea why.
#14082 of 24726 Re: Test drive [middlp23]
Feb 19, 2006 (7:41 pm)
middlep23 - thanks for your well-written description of your experience in the new S550. I think your appreciation of a fine automobile, regardless of the marque, is noteworthy for your age . . . and perhaps you have had a keen awareness of cars for some time now. Many of us posters here on this forum began taking an interest in cars when we were very young.
It can happen at any time, but once the bug bites . . . it's generally for life.
#14083 of 24726 Re: Test drive [tagman]
Feb 19, 2006 (8:33 pm)
middlep23 also has the advantage of not having to live through the '70s and particularly the '80s, very bad times for car enthusiasts. Hard to imagine today that this was basically the best looking car around in those days.
On the other hand, that also means missing the '60s, which was the golden age of cars.
#14084 of 24726 Re: Test drive [lexusguy]
Feb 19, 2006 (9:30 pm)
I remember those days. Have to say the Testarossa still looks good to me, though. Only thing I ever did regarding Ferrari was a 328 GTS in '88 as I think back. It was a seriously mixed experience.
Yeah, middlp23 has an age of technology that we never even dreamed of. And more to come.
#14085 of 24726 Re: Test drive [tagman]
Feb 19, 2006 (9:57 pm)
... as well as an age of gridlock and speed traps with laser targeting. The "Sunday drive" that a lot of us enjoyed as kids is definitely a thing of the past.
Feb 19, 2006 (10:51 pm)
I saw one of those Ferraris on my way back from school the other day, i thought it looked pretty nice, i wouldnt mind driving one lol.
Thats the one thing im worried about, traffic. Whats the point of having a 3 series at 16 when I wont be able to fully appreciate it
Feb 19, 2006 (10:56 pm)
I forgot my manners lol, thanks for the warm welcome. I have had an affinity for automobiles for a while now. Mostly the higher-end marques, but some models from less prestigious brands catch my attention sometimes.
#14088 of 24726 Re: testarossa [middlp23]
Feb 20, 2006 (2:23 am)
While traveling with my wife from the airport to our hotel in London, we were passed by an F50. It was quite an experience, the sound was unlike anything else on the road, and you could literally see the engine through the back of the car. Not quite as magnificent as the Enzo, but pretty close.
#14089 of 24726 Re: testarossa [lexusguy]
Feb 20, 2006 (8:07 am)
While driving thru Aspen, I spotted an ENZO. My 11 year old went nuts. It was beginning to rain so we took a few pics and continued our t-shirt quest. It really is magnificent. It makes the Modena look like a 924. Nice to see cars of this magnitude on the road. The SLR we just sold is driven daily as well.