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Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: ljflx (Jan 21, 2006 10:05 am) I don't deny for a moment that Lexus is gaining in status and wealth of their buyers but one sedan isn't going to put them over Mercedes in the status game. Mercedes has many other models that not even BMW can match when it comes to status etc. Mercedes' position isn't held/made on sedans alone. Why do you think consumers care about build cost? No one cares about that to the point of thinking about what a car company's profits are. Totally irrelevent to a buyer. All buyers care about is the price of the vehicle not why it is cheaper or how that came to be. M
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Replying to: jrock65 (Jan 20, 2006 2:03 pm) The LS430 is rated at 0-60 in 5.9 sec. |
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Replying to: merc1 (Jan 20, 2006 2:14 pm) My LS 430 Ultra (01) has an on off switch for the Stability Control. |
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Replying to: merc1 (Jan 21, 2006 10:25 am) merc1, I think ljflx was referring to the celebrity appreciation (or infatuation, depending upon how you look at it) with HYBRID cars as opposed to Lexus cars. So, the point as I understood it was, once you combine the HYBRID technology to an upstream vehicle like the new LS, it is likely (due to the HYBRID technology) to become a celebrity hit. I do agree with that, as the Prius and Honda Civic Hybrid are "cool" with that crowd (that "crowd" do indeed tend to be environmentalists, trend setters, liberals, progressive thinkers, etc.). The hybrids are "green" and the celebrities love them. And, of course, with that crowd price is not as much a factor. BTW, I do TOTALLY agree with you about the "status" of the Mercedes. I have consistently indicated my position on this. TagMan
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 21, 2006 10:43 am) M
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Replying to: merc1 (Jan 21, 2006 10:47 am) |
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Replying to: ljflx (Jan 21, 2006 10:05 am) ljflx, Even though you are a "Lexus guy", I often agree with (or at least appreciate) your perspective on some things, but while I agree that the LS has great styling, I do not agree that it surpasses many if not all of the German cars. I can't go that far out on a limb. TagMan
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 21, 2006 10:51 am) |
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 21, 2006 11:01 am)
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Replying to: ljflx (Jan 21, 2006 11:01 am) Secondly, yeah we all know what the meaning of "celebrity" is, but I asked which celebrity "crowd" you were referring to. Big difference. They aren't all the same. M
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