High End Luxury Cars

24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#13510 of 24700 Re: The trueth about the Century :) [lexusguy] by garyh1 Jan 19, 2006 (8:20 pm)
Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 19, 2006 11:51 am) What do you think of the Acura RL? Good suggestion, lexusguy. I never have looked at the RL closely. It had just come out when I got my LS in October '05. The early reviews all commented on the small size of the back seat, and that was a big deal for me (carrying 2-3 people in back for business meetings, and carrying my two teenagers on family outings), so I never pursued it. And the styling of the front of the car was singularly unexciting to me. But that certainly is something to consider if nothing else comes along before then that takes her breath away.
#13511 of 24700 Re: Merc1 [ljflx] by merc1 Jan 19, 2006 (9:13 pm)
Replying to: ljflx (Jan 19, 2006 8:15 am) Deep under all that Mercedes love there is a very objective car guy. I've said that before in different words but I'll say it again. Excellent report. Of course I am, thanks! This year was like the best show ever since I've been going. The sheer number of concepts and production debuts were a lot to take in. I enjoyed going through the trouble of trying to do so. M
#13512 of 24700 Re: 2006 Detroit Autoshow Report (cont) [tagman] by merc1 Jan 19, 2006 (9:15 pm)
Replying to: tagman (Jan 19, 2006 9:28 am) Thanks. Wait until I get a chance to go to Geneva or Frankfurt. Those shows are like 5-10 times larger than Detroit! M
#13513 of 24700 S-Class by merc1 Jan 19, 2006 (11:59 pm)
It seems that Edmunds loves the new S-Class: Article Also, Autolies has some gorgeous pics of the new S at a Phoenix AZ launch party. Autospies Pics M Replies to this message: syswei (Jan 20, 2006 4:52 am) lexusguy (Jan 20, 2006 5:55 am) garyh1 (Jan 20, 2006 10:40 am) syswei (Jan 20, 2006 10:59 am) oac (Jan 20, 2006 12:33 pm) jrock65 (Jan 20, 2006 2:03 pm) and 1 more... merc1 (Jan 20, 2006 2:14 pm) michael_mattox (Jan 21, 2006 10:42 am)
#13514 of 24700 Re: S-Class [merc1] by syswei Jan 20, 2006 (4:52 am)
Replying to: merc1 (Jan 19, 2006 11:59 pm) It does sound good, I hadn't read anything so detailed before.
#13516 of 24700 Re: S-Class [merc1] by lexusguy Jan 20, 2006 (5:55 am)
Replying to: merc1 (Jan 19, 2006 11:59 pm) Impressive, it sounds as though it makes short work of the A8 in terms of handling, thats unusual for a Benz. I really dont like those 800,000 identical silver buttons though, nor am I a fan of Mercedes' new steering wheel design. Not quite as bad as this one, which I think was the worst Benz wheel ever, but close.
#13518 of 24700 merc1 by syswei Jan 20, 2006 (9:32 am)
I noticed that autospies had only the S550, S600, S65, and 4matic in their cy2006 timeline. When will a 450 appear? Will they sell a 350 here? Diesels? Replies to this message: merc1 (Jan 20, 2006 2:07 pm) jrock65 (Jan 20, 2006 2:11 pm) merc1 (Jan 20, 2006 2:16 pm) syswei (Jan 20, 2006 2:21 pm) tagman (Jan 20, 2006 6:04 pm)
#13519 of 24700 Re: S-Class [merc1] by garyh1 Jan 20, 2006 (10:40 am)
Replying to: merc1 (Jan 19, 2006 11:59 pm) A few observations: 1. Technology: WOW. Sounds like they once again have achieved making a large car drive better than anyone believes it should. Seats and stereo sound amazing. But is there still no easy big dial to increase the volume of the radio? I love those 2 big rotary dials on my LS that let me (or my less tech-oriented spouse next to me) kick up the volume or slide up a few MHz to another station without having to think which button or combination of buttons I need to press. AND NOTE THE FOLLOWING: "Dynamic control invasive if the car begins to oversteer. And the system cannot be disabled." I wonder if germancarfans will knock this the way they knock the Lexus cars for this. 2. Styling: I can't wait to see it in person to judge for myself. The wheel flares and trunk bulge still turn me off in the pics, especially in the light colors where the shadows exaggerate the design elements. Maybe I could live with it in real life? I'd hate to have to rule the car out just on a design, like I have had to do with the A8 based on its just too, too ugly nose. NOTE TO GERMANCARFANS: NOT MUCH WOOD ON THE DASH, BUT THERE IS ON THE STEERING WHEEL! Oh no, MB goes Lexus just where I dislike it the most.... 3. Reliability: Can you imagine trying to maintain this car once the warranty is over- even if MB's past problems are resolved? Scary.... 4. Pricing: Starting at $86K, and then adding $18K more in options! Ow. I don't suppose there will be a well-equipped S430 version for a lot less than that? But I guess MSRP (and to a lesser extent, long-term reliability)doesn't matter if you can lease it for no money down, $499/month for 36 months. Any way you cut it, it's sure going to be interesting to compare the new S and the new LS! And Merc1, ditto everyone else's comments on a great and comprehensive report on the Detroit show! Replies to this message: syswei (Jan 20, 2006 10:59 am) oac (Jan 20, 2006 12:33 pm) jrock65 (Jan 20, 2006 2:03 pm) michael_mattox (Jan 21, 2006 10:40 am) merc1 (Jan 20, 2006 2:14 pm) michael_mattox (Jan 21, 2006 10:42 am)