High End Luxury Cars

24685 messages, Last post on Nov 02, 2009 at 4:40 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#13495 of 24685 Re: The trueth about the Century :) [lexusi] by bdr127 Jan 19, 2006 (8:22 am)
Replying to: lexusi (Jan 18, 2006 8:40 am) Maybe Japanese taste in cars is different than American taste in cars..... but I personally think that car is ugly, inside and out. And that has nothing to do with arguing German vs. Japanese. I just think the car looks like a mid-80s Dodge/Chrysler. Just not what I'd expect for top-of-the-line luxury. IMO, base model Lexus here in the USA look better than that, inside and out. Replies to this message: lexusguy (Jan 19, 2006 8:44 am) ljflx (Jan 19, 2006 8:57 am) lexusguy (Jan 19, 2006 11:01 am) and 1 more... garyh1 (Jan 19, 2006 11:36 am) and 3 more... lexusguy (Jan 19, 2006 8:43 am) rjlaero (Jan 19, 2006 5:08 pm)
#13496 of 24685 Re: The trueth about the Century :) [bdr127] by lexusguy Jan 19, 2006 (8:44 am)
Replying to: bdr127 (Jan 19, 2006 8:22 am) No, the Century is just a very dated looking car, I think thats universal. The Crown Majesta is a modern luxury car, more attractive than the current LS430, actually. Replies to this message: ljflx (Jan 19, 2006 8:57 am) lexusguy (Jan 19, 2006 11:01 am) bdr127 (Jan 19, 2006 12:05 pm) garyh1 (Jan 19, 2006 11:36 am) lexusguy (Jan 19, 2006 11:51 am) and 1 more... ljflx (Jan 19, 2006 12:07 pm)
#13497 of 24685 Re: The trueth about the Century :) [lexusguy] by ljflx Jan 19, 2006 (8:57 am)
Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 19, 2006 8:44 am) I wonder if the Crown Majesta should have been the GS. It would have done more damage to an E-class than current GS will do to a 5-series IMO. Maybe also it's a version Lexus brings here instead of the lesser powered LS Merc mentioned. Replies to this message: lexusguy (Jan 19, 2006 11:01 am) bdr127 (Jan 19, 2006 12:05 pm) garyh1 (Jan 19, 2006 11:36 am) lexusguy (Jan 19, 2006 11:51 am) garyh1 (Jan 19, 2006 8:20 pm) ljflx (Jan 19, 2006 12:07 pm)
#13498 of 24685 Re: 2006 Detroit Autoshow Report (cont) [merc1] by tagman Jan 19, 2006 (9:28 am)
Replying to: merc1 (Jan 19, 2006 12:03 am) merc1, I finally got a chance to read your posts. Some of these other "old-timers" are more familiar with you than I am . . . so, I must say that you continue to amaze me as I read more of your writings over time. It is truly a pleasure. From a personal standpoint, I was awaiting your feedback most of all for the GL, the S-Class, and the LS460 (and L). . . but I enjoyed every word of your report. Again, a little later than some of the others, but my first opportunity to say a well-deserved "THANKS" to you. And . . . welcome back! TagMan Replies to this message: merc1 (Jan 19, 2006 9:15 pm)
#13499 of 24685 Re: Century V-12 [syswei] by docnukem Jan 19, 2006 (10:09 am)
Replying to: syswei (Jan 19, 2006 7:12 am) I think the styling looks way too dated. Dated? Geez, next you'll be telling me that my Aries K looks dated.
#13500 of 24685 Re: Info: this topic and others. [ljflx] by scott1256 Jan 19, 2006 (10:43 am)
Replying to: ljflx (Jan 19, 2006 8:15 am) The many quality posts this week in various discussions (HELMs and others) have reminded me again why I enjoy this site so much. All the first hand reports, article links, thoughtful comments, insights and predictions have been great. Edmund's is one of the best resources I know for automotive info, both subjective and objective.
#13501 of 24685 Re: The trueth about the Century :) [ljflx] by lexusguy Jan 19, 2006 (11:01 am)
Replying to: ljflx (Jan 19, 2006 8:57 am) The Crown series somewhat parallels our GS. They are on the same platform, and engine options are similar. The Crown Athlete and Royal have the new 2.5 and 3.0 V6s, while the Majesta gets the 4.3 V8. Interestingly, it sounds like the V8 powered Majesta offers AWD. It's hard to say how the Crown would do here if it was transplated here directly. While I like most of the design, I'm not crazy about the rear and the rather blatant copying that was done. Replies to this message: bdr127 (Jan 19, 2006 12:05 pm)
#13502 of 24685 Re: The trueth about the Century :) [ljflx] by garyh1 Jan 19, 2006 (11:36 am)
Replying to: ljflx (Jan 19, 2006 8:57 am) I wonder if the Crown Majesta should have been the GS. It would have done more damage to an E-class than current GS will do to a 5-series IMO. I have to agree with you here, Len. The relationship between the ES and the GS300 has always been confusing to me, even understanding the large technical differences between them. For example, in about a year I will be looking for a replacement for my '98 E320 (extremely low mileage) that my wife is now driving, and I can't figure out what to get for her. She's no sports car driver, but unless an AWD version of the ES becomes available, I'm not sure I'd want to see her in a FWD car. And the GS300AWD is too small in the back seat to be practical, but the LS is more car than she wants. She's not going to like the interior of the 5-series, and neither of us can stand to look at the nose of the A6. And I'm not ready to assume that MB has fixed the reliability problems of the E yet, although perhaps by then I will be - but I think a new version will be coming out around then, and that really makes me nervous! All of which leads me to believe that if the Majestic has a better back seat than the GS (the pics make it look like it does), it might be the answer for her. Of course, the best answer may be to convince her to take my LS, and then I can justify getting the new one! Bottom line questions for lexusguy: wouldn't it be nice to have a "baby LS" in the showroom, rather than just a gussied-up Camry and 2 versions of an poorly-sized sport sedan? Would the Majesta fill that role? Replies to this message: lexusguy (Jan 19, 2006 11:51 am) garyh1 (Jan 19, 2006 8:20 pm) ljflx (Jan 19, 2006 12:07 pm)
#13503 of 24685 Someday Toyota might by scott1256 Jan 19, 2006 (11:50 am)
set aside their concerns over protectionist sentiment in the USA and EU. If that ever happens the ultra luxury market will get interesting fast. Toyota has engines and other systems in place that would enable them to roll out world class sedans, roadsters and coupes in the $100-250,000 bracket. They now have great cabin designs, at least at home. The interiors Toyota offers in Japan rival what the British and Italians are building.
#13504 of 24685 Re: The trueth about the Century :) [garyh1] by lexusguy Jan 19, 2006 (11:51 am)
Replying to: garyh1 (Jan 19, 2006 11:36 am) Well, Lexus has no plans to bring the car stateside, so its not something you're going to be able to just get at your local dealer. What do you think of the Acura RL? Replies to this message: garyh1 (Jan 19, 2006 8:20 pm)