High End Luxury Cars

24697 messages, Last post on Nov 28, 2009 at 3:09 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#13480 of 24697 Re: Once again, Merc1 [scott1256] by merc1 Jan 19, 2006 (5:37 am)
Replying to: scott1256 (Jan 19, 2006 5:01 am) The S-Class models on display were Black (S550) and Silver (S65 AMG). The GL, R and ML interiors just don't have the same material quality as say CLS, CLK or new S-Class. They're much better than the original ML, but still aren't among the top of their repsective classes. Mercedes really needs to examine a Range Rover to see how a proper luxury SUV interior is done. Either that or spend the same amount of money on the Bama Benzes as they do on the German built ones. Yes the British and Italians do interior better imo. They have a way of working the wood and leather in a way that the rest of the world hasn't figured out. Only Audi gets close the same "way" of doing it. Just think if Chrysler can score a hit with the Challenger, Imperial and the next generation mid-size sedans! Their new found success will definitely be sustainable. Yeah I want to see a true flagship car from Cadillac. The DTS ain't it. M
#13481 of 24697 Re: 2006 Detroit Autoshow Report! [merc1] by hpowders Jan 19, 2006 (5:38 am)
Replying to: merc1 (Jan 18, 2006 11:23 pm) Merc1-Allow me to add my thanks for the comprehensive report on the auto show. The Audi Q7 has really piqued my interest. Should be a big hit in the $50-60K luxury SUV category.
#13482 of 24697 Thanks! by merc1 Jan 19, 2006 (5:40 am)
I'm glad you all enjoyed it. HD - The Q7 is a nice vehicle for sure. Now if gas prices don't spike to high the spring/summer Audi, Mercedes and Cadillac should all find plenty of buyers for their new SUVs. A few other things: Bugatti wasn't there. I was looking foward to seeing this million dollar, 16-cylinder car in person. Of course it was being shown in L.A. which will likely be its biggest market. I can understand that I guess. VW has two displays, one on the upper level and one on the lower level. The Phaeton was on the lower level and locked up tight. It is a goodbye for this car for sure though people seemed interested in it. OMG Geely, the Chinese brand! I predict utter failure for this venture. I wouldn't be so sure the Chinese brand that come over after Geely will fail however. I think they'll know better than to bring over such a dated, forgettable car. M
#13483 of 24697 Re: Century V-12 engine age [rayng] by lexusguy Jan 19, 2006 (6:32 am)
Replying to: rayng (Jan 18, 2006 6:08 pm) Japanese collector cars are currently few and far between. The only ones really right now are the original Toyota FJ-40 Land Cruisers, and of course the Toyota 2000GT sports car. The S8 and S65 are nice cars, but not collector cars. They certainly arent something you should buy as an investment. I also shudder to think how expensive it would be to try and maintain a 30 or 40 year old Audi MMI or Mercedes COMAND system. Replies to this message: scott1256 (Jan 19, 2006 6:39 am) syswei (Jan 19, 2006 7:12 am) docnukem (Jan 19, 2006 10:09 am) tayl0rd (Jan 19, 2006 8:00 am) merc1 (Jan 19, 2006 7:33 am) lexusguy (Jan 19, 2006 7:48 am) merc1 (Jan 19, 2006 7:55 am)
#13484 of 24697 Re: Century V-12 [lexusguy] by scott1256 Jan 19, 2006 (6:39 am)
Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 19, 2006 6:32 am) IMO if Toyota sent the Century to the USA it would find a ready market. I suppose that won't happen. Replies to this message: syswei (Jan 19, 2006 7:12 am) docnukem (Jan 19, 2006 10:09 am) tayl0rd (Jan 19, 2006 8:00 am)
#13485 of 24697 Re: 2006 Detroit Autoshow Report (cont) [merc1] by lexusguy Jan 19, 2006 (6:58 am)
Replying to: merc1 (Jan 19, 2006 12:03 am) "Ford seems to be serious about giving Lincoln some actual cars to sell besides the age/livery cast Town Car. The MKS seems like a step in the right direction as is the MKX crossover." Really? I didnt get that impression at all. First of all, the nonsensical, last minute change from Aviator and Continental to "MKS" and "MKX" is probably one of the dumbest things they could possibly do. The MKX is entirely a bandwagon vehicle that is 10 years to late, and has absolutely nothing to set it apart from the competition, nor does it look anything like a Lincoln. Its some kind of hodge-podge rip-off of 18 other crossovers currently on sale. Its actually less interesting than the Ford Freestyle, I didnt think that was possible. The MKS is actually worse, I think. Its like a GS430, minus all of the styling excitement. They took this: And ended up with this. Talk about a step backwards. Replies to this message: tayl0rd (Jan 19, 2006 8:01 am)
#13486 of 24697 Re: Century V-12 [scott1256] by syswei Jan 19, 2006 (7:12 am)
Replying to: scott1256 (Jan 19, 2006 6:39 am) I think the styling looks way too dated. Replies to this message: docnukem (Jan 19, 2006 10:09 am)
#13487 of 24697 Re: Century V-12 engine age [lexusguy] by merc1 Jan 19, 2006 (7:33 am)
Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 19, 2006 6:32 am) . I also shudder to think how expensive it would be to try and maintain a 30 or 40 year old Audi MMI or Mercedes COMAND system. The same goes for all of these high-tech luxury cars 30-40 years from now. None of them are going to be cheap and/or going to last that long without some major money being spent to keep them going. About Lincoln, I just got the feeling that Ford is at least trying to breathe some life into Lincoln. People seemed to be impressed with both the MKS and MKS. The MKS is the direct kin of the new Volvo S80 for sure. I had figured Ford would give up on Lincoln but they aren't. Will they topple Cadillac or compete with the brands we talk about here? Heck no. I agree the name change was dumb. Aviator sounds so much better MKX (Mark X) to me, but to Lincoln fans it may resonate. Though I know nothing about a last minute change from Continental to MKS. The Continental name is kinda tired for Lincoln and maybe a fresh start is what is needed. The MKS really isn't a bad car and certainly can't hurt Lincoln. M Replies to this message: lexusguy (Jan 19, 2006 7:48 am) merc1 (Jan 19, 2006 7:55 am)
#13488 of 24697 Volvo by merc1 Jan 19, 2006 (7:36 am)
I forgot to mention Volvo in my first posts about the Detroit autoshow. The new C70 is just the neatest car. It looks good top-up and top-down. Typical comfortable and logical Volvo interior and a unique style, the C70 is a winner for sure. I'd like to see 300hp "R" version. M
#13489 of 24697 Re: Century V-12 engine age [merc1] by lexusguy Jan 19, 2006 (7:48 am)
Replying to: merc1 (Jan 19, 2006 7:33 am) I suppose thats true, the MKS really cant do any damage. Its just that if they expect to target the STS with it, they're fooling themselves. Replies to this message: merc1 (Jan 19, 2006 7:55 am)