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You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens

What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Re: 2006 Detroit Autoshow Report (cont) [merc1] by syswei
Jan 19, 2006 (3:36 am)
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Replying to: merc1 (Jan 19, 2006 12:03 am)

Thanks, Merc1!
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Re: 2006 Detroit Autoshow Report (cont) [merc1] by pat HOST
Jan 19, 2006 (3:48 am)
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Replying to: merc1 (Jan 19, 2006 12:03 am)

Super write-up, merc1, thanks!
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Once again, Merc1 by scott1256
Jan 19, 2006 (5:01 am)
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we owe you. Thanks for the first person report.
 
I too wonder why the delay on the 100EX (Corniche). It is a stunner in pictures.
 
Concur on the Imperial: a huge seller if DC builds it.
 
Glad the S class looks better in the metal than in pics. What color were the S classes on display? What was it about the GL interior you didn't like?
 
On interiors: the Brits and Italians do interiors so much better than the Germans, Japanese and Americans. I concur: cream/ivory interiors look great.
 
Challenger and Camaro: best sellers in the making.
 
Time for a new CTS. Sales increased again last year: get the new model on the fast track to keep it moving. I also think the Escalade trio will bring Cadillac SUV sales back to life.
 
You mention a sense that Cadillac is missing a model. Obviously it is the Sixteen - Caddy should build it!
 
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Re: Once again, Merc1 [scott1256] by merc1
Jan 19, 2006 (5:37 am)
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Replying to: scott1256 (Jan 19, 2006 5:01 am)

The S-Class models on display were Black (S550) and Silver (S65 AMG). The GL, R and ML interiors just don't have the same material quality as say CLS, CLK or new S-Class. They're much better than the original ML, but still aren't among the top of their repsective classes. Mercedes really needs to examine a Range Rover to see how a proper luxury SUV interior is done. Either that or spend the same amount of money on the Bama Benzes as they do on the German built ones.
 
Yes the British and Italians do interior better imo. They have a way of working the wood and leather in a way that the rest of the world hasn't figured out. Only Audi gets close the same "way" of doing it.
 
Just think if Chrysler can score a hit with the Challenger, Imperial and the next generation mid-size sedans! Their new found success will definitely be sustainable.
 
Yeah I want to see a true flagship car from Cadillac. The DTS ain't it.
 
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Re: 2006 Detroit Autoshow Report! [merc1] by hpowders
Jan 19, 2006 (5:38 am)
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Replying to: merc1 (Jan 18, 2006 11:23 pm)

Merc1-Allow me to add my thanks for the comprehensive report on the auto show.
The Audi Q7 has really piqued my interest.
Should be a big hit in the $50-60K luxury SUV category.
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Thanks! by merc1
Jan 19, 2006 (5:40 am)
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I'm glad you all enjoyed it.
 
HD - The Q7 is a nice vehicle for sure. Now if gas prices don't spike to high the spring/summer Audi, Mercedes and Cadillac should all find plenty of buyers for their new SUVs.
 
A few other things:
 
Bugatti wasn't there. I was looking foward to seeing this million dollar, 16-cylinder car in person. Of course it was being shown in L.A. which will likely be its biggest market. I can understand that I guess.
 
VW has two displays, one on the upper level and one on the lower level. The Phaeton was on the lower level and locked up tight. It is a goodbye for this car for sure though people seemed interested in it.
 
OMG Geely, the Chinese brand! I predict utter failure for this venture. I wouldn't be so sure the Chinese brand that come over after Geely will fail however. I think they'll know better than to bring over such a dated, forgettable car.
 
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Re: Century V-12 engine age [rayng] by lexusguy
Jan 19, 2006 (6:32 am)
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Replying to: rayng (Jan 18, 2006 6:08 pm)

Japanese collector cars are currently few and far between. The only ones really right now are the original Toyota FJ-40 Land Cruisers, and of course the Toyota 2000GT sports car.
 
The S8 and S65 are nice cars, but not collector cars. They certainly arent something you should buy as an investment. I also shudder to think how expensive it would be to try and maintain a 30 or 40 year old Audi MMI or Mercedes COMAND system.
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Re: Century V-12 [lexusguy] by scott1256
Jan 19, 2006 (6:39 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 19, 2006 6:32 am)

IMO if Toyota sent the Century to the USA it would find a ready market.
 
I suppose that won't happen.
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Re: 2006 Detroit Autoshow Report (cont) [merc1] by lexusguy
Jan 19, 2006 (6:58 am)
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Replying to: merc1 (Jan 19, 2006 12:03 am)

"Ford seems to be serious about giving Lincoln some actual cars to sell besides the age/livery cast Town Car. The MKS seems like a step in the right direction as is the MKX crossover."
 
Really? I didnt get that impression at all. First of all, the nonsensical, last minute change from Aviator and Continental to "MKS" and "MKX" is probably one of the dumbest things they could possibly do. The MKX is entirely a bandwagon vehicle that is 10 years to late, and has absolutely nothing to set it apart from the competition, nor does it look anything like a Lincoln. Its some kind of hodge-podge rip-off of 18 other crossovers currently on sale. Its actually less interesting than the Ford Freestyle, I didnt think that was possible.
 
The MKS is actually worse, I think. Its like a GS430, minus all of the styling excitement. They took this:
 

 
And ended up with this. Talk about a step backwards.
 
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Re: Century V-12 [scott1256] by syswei
Jan 19, 2006 (7:12 am)
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Replying to: scott1256 (Jan 19, 2006 6:39 am)

I think the styling looks way too dated.

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